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How Inuit Parents Teach Kids To Control Their Anger (2019)

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Post by shagie »

svat wrote: post #31

A caption in the article says “A lot has changed in the Arctic since the Canadian government forced Inuit families to settle in towns. But the community is trying to preserve traditional parenting practices.” (and earlier the article says “Elders I spoke with say intense colonization over the past century is damaging these traditions.” ) — what is this referring to? What did the Canadian government do?

> What did the Canadian government do?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commi...

> In June 2015, the TRC released an executive summary of its findings along with 94 "calls to action" regarding reconciliation between Canadians and Indigenous Peoples. The commission officially concluded in December 2015 with the publication of a multi-volume final report that concluded the school system amounted to cultural genocide. The National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation, which opened at the University of Manitoba in November 2015, is an archival repository home to the research, documents, and testimony collected during the course of the TRC's operation.

https://www.rcaanc-cirnac.gc.ca/eng/1450124405592/1529106060...

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It is a LONG, deep, and dark rabbit hole to dig through those documents that takes you through places such as undocumented graveyards behind schools. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/stó-lō-natio...

Specifically regarding the Inuit resettlement - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Arctic_relocation

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Post by dubcanada »

svat wrote: post #31

A caption in the article says “A lot has changed in the Arctic since the Canadian government forced Inuit families to settle in towns. But the community is trying to preserve traditional parenting practices.” (and earlier the article says “Elders I spoke with say intense colonization over the past century is damaging these traditions.” ) — what is this referring to? What did the Canadian government do?

I only know of 1 forced relocation the Quebec -> High Circle relocation after WW2. I don't believe that's what they are referring too. Unless they mean the standard first nation reservation rules. Which are not applicable for Inuit from what I understand.

Re: How Inuit Parents Teach Kids To Control Their Anger (2019)

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Post by filleduchaos »

rawgabbit wrote: post #32
adriand wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anger is not at all useless, it is a powerful and extremely useful emotion. When we witness injustice, when our loved ones are threatened or harmed, when someone treats us with contempt or disrespect, anger is our signal that we must take action, and it gives us the energy and courage to do what must be done. Understanding your anger and not letting it control your behaviour (ie not giving in to blind rage), is impor…

You are describing moral outrage. The other poster is talking about what academics associate with the fight or flight instinct. I agree with the other poster anger and other extreme emotions are usually negatively correlated with long term success. Extreme emotions engages our primal brain which prevents our more advanced brain from engaging.

> You are describing moral outrage.

That's simply a fancy label for a particular kind of anger, as one might be able to tell from the literal definition of outrage: an extremely strong reaction of anger, shock, or indignation.

In my opinion there are few things quite as pathetic as people who twist themselves into pretzels to avoid acknowledging their emotions for what they are. Certain emotions are "bad" (anger, jealousy, etc), and so instead of addressing it when they feel those things, they just convince themselves that they aren't actually feeling them at all and that their reactions are driven by some higher logic or nobler emotion - all while still inflicting their emotional fallout on those around them.

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Post by Aurornis »

Obscurity4340 wrote: post #39
makeitshine wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do many people, when older, get upset about the lies their parents told them about Santa, The Easter Bunny and such? I'm skeptical these sorts of childhood lies cause any issues.

It certainly gives you more ammunition as a teen to distrust and venture the things your parents also taught you or implied were dangerous. It also teaches your children to believe foolish and questionable speech+conduct on the part of authority figures which has creates many other problems. Why is it necessary? Why do you need to lie to your children? Teaching them that lying is "fun" is absurd, so many problems are…

> Why is it necessary? Why do you need to lie to your children?

I prefer to be straight with my young kids when possible, but even I have to admit that mythical type stories carry a lot more staying power with young kids than a stern warning about real danger from their parents.

The context we have as adults about the consequences of things like death are not fully developed in young children. However, they pick up on stories and remember details of stories very clearly.

Moving important lessons into the context of stories makes them resonate more with young children. It’s as simple as that. You can also give them the real-world explanation at the same time, but the story version will almost always have better staying power in a child’s mind.

Re: How Inuit Parents Teach Kids To Control Their Anger (2019)

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Post by filleduchaos »

foofie wrote: post #26
adriand wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anger is not at all useless, it is a powerful and extremely useful emotion. When we witness injustice, when our loved ones are threatened or harmed, when someone treats us with contempt or disrespect, anger is our signal that we must take action, and it gives us the energy and courage to do what must be done. Understanding your anger and not letting it control your behaviour (ie not giving in to blind rage), is impor…

> (...) and it gives us the energy and courage to do what must be done. I don't think that's true. Anger, by definition, is a primal/emotional response that leads people to act abruptly without any semblance of reflection on the potential impact of their actions. The expressions "acted in anger" does not mean "acted with courage to do what needed to be done". It actually means someone screwed up badly without thinkin…

Anger does literally give a person energy and what can be labelled "courage" beyond their norm. That it is still up to the human being with a fully functional brain to figure out whether or not to use that energy (and, if yes, what exactly to do with it) doesn't change that fact.

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Post by AlotOfReading »

dubcanada wrote: post #42
svat wrote: post #31

A caption in the article says “A lot has changed in the Arctic since the Canadian government forced Inuit families to settle in towns. But the community is trying to preserve traditional parenting practices.” (and earlier the article says “Elders I spoke with say intense colonization over the past century is damaging these traditions.” ) — what is this referring to? What did the Canadian government do?

I only know of 1 forced relocation the Quebec -> High Circle relocation after WW2. I don't believe that's what they are referring too. Unless they mean the standard first nation reservation rules. Which are not applicable for Inuit from what I understand.

The government had multiple "relocation" ventures beyond the high arctic relocations and it's not much of a stretch to call it the standard policy from that period. HBC also did an experiment with the now-deserted town of Devon's harbour. Other examples include Nueltin lake and Banks Island.

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Post by Der_Einzige »

082349872349872 wrote: post #3

I'm with the Inuit and Jedi on this one: anger is pretty useless[0], and if you must[1] take revenge, that's best served cold. Sometimes I wonder if the typical Hollywood W-plot, in which the hero's best friend/significant relation is shown partying/getting the girl/otherwise living well at the top of the middle ∧ then killed by the villain at the bottom of the right ∨, after which the hero gets angry and wins the da…

The Iliad is the greatest LGBT love story of all time and I will die on that hill - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achilles_and_Patroclus

If you read the Iliad as a man losing his childhood lover, everything makes sense. Many in the classical greek period took this interpretation.

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Post by itsoktocry »

dappermanneke wrote: post #27

what is exactly the anglospheres obsession with trying to make their life more like that of people who live in squalor and possess nothing?

>what is exactly the anglospheres obsession with trying to make their life more like that of people who live in squalor and possess nothing?

I don't understand either.

We'll point to something like this and say, "look at what this culture does that's positive!"

But if you point out something negative of a specific culture, that's taboo.

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Post by Tao3300 »

rayiner wrote: post #22
sublinear wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah that's exactly the problem with the boogeyman. They inevitably enter a rebellious phase that could be mostly avoided if you maintained trust and communication. Easier said than done, but you need to keep things simple and direct. To be blunt about it, most parents aren't mentally mature enough to have kids.

> They inevitably enter a rebellious phase Adolescents have a biological inclination to distance themselves from their parents. But in cultures that properly isolate and ostracize non-conformists and trouble makers, you don’t necessarily have a “rebellious” phase. (Some undoubtedly do, most don’t.)

If a "rebellious phase" in an Inuit population would entail falling into frigid water and dying, one angry teen per generation that falls in is probably enough to keep the rest out, if it's not cleared from the gene pool altogether. The latter might be bad armchair evolutionary psychology, but we're talking about a small population that's been in an extreme environment for a pretty long time.
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