Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro • Hacker News Board

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by MengerSponge » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 6:05 AM UTC

jdminhbg wrote: post #25

So nice to see a YouTube client that makes sense on the platform it’s on. Compare to the official YT client for iPad, for example, which bizarrely uses the same tiny Material touch targets as on phones.

FYI, Vinegar is well worth a couple of bucks. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vinegar-tube-cleaner/id1591303...

Install it, and delete the janky "native" app. Now Youtube is a webpage that does everything it does on a regular browser. PiP? Audio with the screen locked or in the background? Yes and yes.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by drusepth » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 6:06 AM UTC

ewzimm wrote: post #16

drusepth wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There might be less incentive for a Quest port because there's already an official YouTube app that works quite well on the platform.

It's not meant for MR like this. An immersive app for YouTube that let you have a window management experiece closer to the Vision Pro would be welcome.

For the record, both the YouTube app and YouTube in the built-in browser seem to work just fine in mixed reality / passthrough (at least on my Quest 3), but the big feature they're both missing from Juno's feature list is resizable MR windows.

Would love to see a Juno port at some point if it includes this too!

Edit: According to the Internet, apparently there is actually a way to resize the MR windows (their "switch view" button lets you resize them); I'm apparently just blind. Would still love to see a Juno port though; more options is always good.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by geoelectric » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 6:06 AM UTC

monkeywork wrote: post #38

ftio wrote: post #27

Christian isn’t charging enough! This could easily be $10 or more. I still grumble every time I use the Reddit app. RIP Apollo.

While not as good as Apollo the "Dystopia for reddit" (iOS) or the "Red Reader" (android) are both better than the official reddit app.

iOS has Narwhal 2, as well. It’s got its own subscription to defray the API costs but it’s a reasonable price.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by hokumguru » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 6:08 AM UTC

m3kw9 wrote: post #33

Why do this when YouTube would have one eventually? This isn’t like Reddit client, I’ve never heard of a 3rd party YouTube client. Is he doing it for fun or just to get the initial impatient $$ before YouTube shows up?

You didn’t use an iPhone before iOS6? Hate to break it to you but they took quite a few years with the last platform!

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by wahnfrieden » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 6:14 AM UTC

p-e-w wrote: post #17

mickle00 wrote: post #3

love that this was built from the Apollo developer. Obviously incredibly talented.

I'm amazed that someone who has been this badly burned by a corporation controlling their API access would even think about writing another app that uses third-party APIs, to be honest.

Nah this approach is solid. It’s web views not api. It’s basically a web browser. I imagine other iOS browsers like brave will come to vision and have YouTube etc video playback and demonstrate it’s tolerated even with Adblock probably. But maybe easier to get by if more clearly a multipurpose web browser.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by wrsh07 » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 6:16 AM UTC

m3kw9 wrote: post #33

Why do this when YouTube would have one eventually? This isn’t like Reddit client, I’ve never heard of a 3rd party YouTube client. Is he doing it for fun or just to get the initial impatient $$ before YouTube shows up?

The worst part of being an early adopter (very first world problems) is that nothing exists yet. When 4k HDR was first being supported, a couple of Netflix shows were there and... not much else (some YouTube videos of dubious quality) VisionOS is going to have a lot of new app developer excitement, and that's good! YouTube is one of the most used apps on my phone, $5 seems pretty reasonable.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by po » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 6:18 AM UTC

p-e-w wrote: post #17

mickle00 wrote: post #3

love that this was built from the Apollo developer. Obviously incredibly talented.

I'm amazed that someone who has been this badly burned by a corporation controlling their API access would even think about writing another app that uses third-party APIs, to be honest.

He's not selling it as a subscription so there's very little downside. Some people will send him $5 and if/when YouTube cuts it off (can they really?) he doesn't really owe anyone anything.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by Hamuko » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 6:20 AM UTC

po wrote: post #47

p-e-w wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm amazed that someone who has been this badly burned by a corporation controlling their API access would even think about writing another app that uses third-party APIs, to be honest.

He's not selling it as a subscription so there's very little downside. Some people will send him $5 and if/when YouTube cuts it off (can they really?) he doesn't really owe anyone anything.

>if/when YouTube cuts it off (can they really?)

It's called "Juno for YouTube" so they could definitely send a cease and desist for the YouTube trademark.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by xyst » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 6:20 AM UTC

Only a matter of time until G blocks access to whatever API he is using or throttles it. YT invests a shit ton of money to ensure you use the official YT app to make sure you view their stupid ads, pump their ad profits, or buy YoUtUbE PrEmIuM

looks good though! Won't be adopting the apple vision pro for awhile. but the developers pushing their apps to this ecosystem will definitely be awarded for early adoption until "native" apps are made available.

pump out a AVP app. early adopters of AVP likely to buy ($5-$10). Rake in that easy money while the big companies take their time in building their own app. Big companies then throttle or block those apis used by indy developers or require fee to use them. Indy developers likely to halt development and thus people end up on the official apps.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by quic5 » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 6:25 AM UTC

xyst wrote: post #49

Only a matter of time until G blocks access to whatever API he is using or throttles it. YT invests a shit ton of money to ensure you use the official YT app to make sure you view their stupid ads, pump their ad profits, or buy YoUtUbE PrEmIuM looks good though! Won't be adopting the apple vision pro for awhile. but the developers pushing their apps to this ecosystem will definitely be awarded for early adoption unti…

> At its core, Juno uses the YouTube website itself. No, not scraped. It presents the website as you would load it, but similar to how browser extensions work, it tweaks the theming of the site through CSS and JavaScript.