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Re: .ai website registrations are a windfall for tiny Anguilla

#41
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.io quite infamously https://www.thewebmaster.com/archived/io-tld-top-level-domai...

I legit didn't realize that .io was a TLD for a country/state. Also, that article is wild! In the future, we'll have a coup in some country and it will cause web chaos just from the TLD issue. (I've seen first-hand how some countries handle their ccTLDs...)

> I legit didn't realize that .io was a TLD for a country/state.

All two-letter TLDs are. Now that you know the pattern, you'll be able to identify all the other ccTLDs as well.

Re: .ai website registrations are a windfall for tiny Anguilla

#42
post #18

Tuvalu (.tv), Libya (.ly), Anguilla (.ai). Matt of wordpress got ma.tt (Trinidad & Tobago). Some countries (eg, Canada) require some kind of residency. What other TLDs are special?

.it (Italy) for "IT/Information Technology"

IIRC it sort of has a residency requirement, but there are companies that will proxy your registration for you. More trouble than its worth to just not abuse the TLDs in this manner.

Re: .ai website registrations are a windfall for tiny Anguilla

#43
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.io quite infamously https://www.thewebmaster.com/archived/io-tld-top-level-domai...

I legit didn't realize that .io was a TLD for a country/state. Also, that article is wild! In the future, we'll have a coup in some country and it will cause web chaos just from the TLD issue. (I've seen first-hand how some countries handle their ccTLDs...)

OK I know this sounds kind of shitty but hear me out for the sake of argument.

If there is some political issue and say .ai domains are taken over, what's stopping IANA from just taking over that TLD and moving the zone to some other entity? Most domains there are owned by international business and some IANA members might want to keep them running.

Re: .ai website registrations are a windfall for tiny Anguilla

#44
post #15

I've said it before [0-4], I'll say it again -- mind your TLD. They have about as much control and influence over your traffic as a VPN, except even your users are at their mercy. Do not choose a TLD based on trends. [0]: https://twitter.com/mholt6/status/1686148772831846402 "TLDs are almost as bad as VPNs in terms of the magnitude of trust you need to commit to another entity for your online survival. Always do thor…

we actually used an .ai domain and one night, round 11pm it stopped pointing to us. To add a record, the registrar at AI literally had a spreadsheet which upserts all the records when they upload it, and someone fat-fingered the row with our domain. It took the whole night to get a hold of the one person on that island who could fix it. This was about 5 years ago, maybe they've gotten better.

Re: .ai website registrations are a windfall for tiny Anguilla

#46
post #4

My cue to mention http://ai which used to link to the registrar

How does this work? Are there other domains like this? I've never seen it before!

Conceptually as a user there is not much difference between the topmost TLD, a domain within the TLD, and a "subdomain" (really, a "host") within a domain. Nor any other level under it.

The DNS root is .

Under the DNS root are the TLDs; com, net, org, and a bazillion other.

Then under those are domains. More or less. Some countries use for example co.tld instead of tld, and some use both.

Anyways, aside from things like glue records etc that the domain and tld owners have to concern themselves with, my claim is that for a user it is more or less the same.

If I tell you that my website is http://www.example.com/ then in theory you could do the following to resolve it:

- You don't know the IP of www.example.com so you have to find the Name Server for it.

- You don't know the NS of example.com so you decide that you should query the NS of com for it.

- You don't know the NS of com so you decide that you should query the DNS root . for it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_root_zone

https://root-servers.org/

So let's query a root server

  dig @198.41.0.4 com. NS
Command output with response and some tool specific stuff:

  ; > DiG 9.10.6 > @198.41.0.4 com. NS
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: +cmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; ->>HEADER
Ok, and from that we can query one of the NS of com for example.com

  dig @192.12.94.30 example.com NS
Output:

  ; > DiG 9.10.6 > @192.12.94.30 example.com NS
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: +cmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; ->>HEADER
And we can query the NS for example.com to find out the IP address of www.example.com

  dig @a.iana-servers.net. www.example.com A
(You can see I skipped a couple of steps in the interest of brevity here, as I am suddenly querying an NS by its DNS name a.iana-servers.net. directly instead of via an IP address. But if you like you could imagine that we take the same steps to resolve a.iana-servers.net. from the DNS root up.)

And we get the following output:

  ; > DiG 9.10.6 > @a.iana-servers.net. www.example.com A
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: +cmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; ->>HEADER
In reality most client devices will not resolve it from the root up. Instead, they will be told about local resolvers when they aquire DHCP lease on their local network, and they will ask those resolvers on the local network to resolve the domain, and they might do it either directly from cached values, or at least skipping a few steps because they already know which NS are in charge of which TLDs.

But what I am getting to is this:

We can ask the root servers for the NS for the TLD.

  dig @198.41.0.4 ai. NS
which gives us

  ; > DiG 9.10.6 > @198.41.0.4 ai. NS
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: +cmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; ->>HEADER
And we can ask one of those for an IP address for the ai tld itself.

  dig @204.61.216.123 ai. A
And in the case of the ai tld, the NS for the tld do indeed return an A record for the bare tld

  ; > DiG 9.10.6 > @204.61.216.123 ai. A
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: +cmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; ->>HEADER
And there you have it. That's how it works.

Re: .ai website registrations are a windfall for tiny Anguilla

#47
post #36
post #18

Tuvalu (.tv), Libya (.ly), Anguilla (.ai). Matt of wordpress got ma.tt (Trinidad & Tobago). Some countries (eg, Canada) require some kind of residency. What other TLDs are special?

In the same vein as .tv there is the .fm (Federated States of Micronesia) for radio stations. Also, .ws (Western Samoa), which was sold as "web site".

Seen a decent number of usages of .fm for podcasts.

Re: .ai website registrations are a windfall for tiny Anguilla

#48
post #18

Tuvalu (.tv), Libya (.ly), Anguilla (.ai). Matt of wordpress got ma.tt (Trinidad & Tobago). Some countries (eg, Canada) require some kind of residency. What other TLDs are special?

Many registrars offer a service where they provide a local contact who meets the residency requirements of your preferred domain name.

Not something to do lightly for an actively used domain name if you're an actual business, as it may establish presence in a jurisdiction you'd rather not be in; but it should be fine enough for personal use; worst case, you abandon the domain when it becomes an issue and maybe avoid travel to that country.

Re: .ai website registrations are a windfall for tiny Anguilla

#49
post #15

I've said it before [0-4], I'll say it again -- mind your TLD. They have about as much control and influence over your traffic as a VPN, except even your users are at their mercy. Do not choose a TLD based on trends. [0]: https://twitter.com/mholt6/status/1686148772831846402 "TLDs are almost as bad as VPNs in terms of the magnitude of trust you need to commit to another entity for your online survival. Always do thor…

You're definitely right, though .ai refers to a British territory and therefore is on the more stable end politically. (though see .io for a counterexample; the TLD was sold off to a private company)

There are plenty of worse choices, like using .la (Laos) for Los Angeles, .dj (Djibouti) for DJ-related sites, or (particularly prevalent on HN) .rs (Serbia) for anything related to the Rust language.

Re: .ai website registrations are a windfall for tiny Anguilla

#50
post #15

I've said it before [0-4], I'll say it again -- mind your TLD. They have about as much control and influence over your traffic as a VPN, except even your users are at their mercy. Do not choose a TLD based on trends. [0]: https://twitter.com/mholt6/status/1686148772831846402 "TLDs are almost as bad as VPNs in terms of the magnitude of trust you need to commit to another entity for your online survival. Always do thor…

Basing your entire business on a ccTLD is very risky. All it takes is a coup and boom you’re toast.

Most businesses own their brand name under at least a few TLD's. It's fairly easy to shift customers over from yourbrand.com to yourbrand.org.

And you'd be smart to have your mobile app fall back to a backup domain if your main domain is uncontactable.

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