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You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #28
staunton wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First, that number is most probably understated. Second, your comment could be interpreted as saying that counties with high pay have (or should have) a lot of homeless people, which seems insane. So what did you mean?

It’s not that insane. If pay is low then companies can afford to hire more people to do the same amount of work, leading to overall more employment and then presumably less homelessness.

Unemployment is just one factor in homelessness. Other factors are drugs (Japan is much more stricter), home availability (Japan has much less NIBMYies), etc.

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Post by burnished »

vhcr wrote: post #35
stackedinserter wrote: post #32

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But startups really can't afford it, what else can they do?

Insurance?

Is that a real thing or are you just guessing?

I'm trying to imagine an insurance policy that a) protects against financial losses related to losing a pivotal member and b) pays out because they got pregnant, and it sounds insane.

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Post by [deleted] »

alephnan wrote: post #38
andrewstuart wrote: post #37

You’ll never know if you’re being discriminated against due to age. Not here in Australia anyway, no one would ever say out loud. You just don’t get selected. I did go for a job recently where we had a great phone interview and the guy essentially said “everything looks great we just need to meet in person” and when we met in person I visibly saw his expression change. Something about my appearance, either age or wei…

This is a case where statistics could prove of systemic discrimination and statistical anomalies

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Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

wegfawefgawefg wrote: post #6

You know what japan always does though? They always respond to applications. Theres no instant automated rejection email. Theres no getting ghosted by 90% of companies. Pay is bad though.

Could it be because there are no automated systems?

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Post by JKCalhoun »

andrewstuart wrote: post #37

You’ll never know if you’re being discriminated against due to age. Not here in Australia anyway, no one would ever say out loud. You just don’t get selected. I did go for a job recently where we had a great phone interview and the guy essentially said “everything looks great we just need to meet in person” and when we met in person I visibly saw his expression change. Something about my appearance, either age or wei…

We (at Apple) interviewed a guy who was about my age (and I was already in my 50's at that time, ha ha). The interview(s) went great as far as I could suss but when we, the interviewers, met to go around and give the potential hire a thumbs up or thumbs down — one guy on our team was decidedly thumbs down.

Why was he thumbs down? "I don't think he's a good fit for the team." When pressed for what that means he simply repeated it.

Make of that what you will.

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

alephnan wrote: post #38
andrewstuart wrote: post #37

You’ll never know if you’re being discriminated against due to age. Not here in Australia anyway, no one would ever say out loud. You just don’t get selected. I did go for a job recently where we had a great phone interview and the guy essentially said “everything looks great we just need to meet in person” and when we met in person I visibly saw his expression change. Something about my appearance, either age or wei…

This is a case where statistics could prove of systemic discrimination and statistical anomalies

They can prove statistical anomalies, sure. But no amount of statistics can prove discrimination (contrary to popular belief these days).

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Post by JKCalhoun »

tarxvf wrote: post #9
whatyesaid wrote: post #3

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Age is pretty easily guessable by degree dates and your appearance, they don't need to ask it explicitly.

More than that, too. I bet you could guess my age within 2 years with solely a list of technology I've used. I don't think it would even have to be sorted by date.

Go ahead, leave "Hypercard" on your resume. Wear it as a badge of honor.

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Post by UncleOxidant »

ensignavenger wrote: post #20
whatyesaid wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Age is pretty easily guessable by degree dates and your appearance, they don't need to ask it explicitly.

Fortunately for me, I finished my degree much later in life than most folks. Pretty sure I could pass myself off as being at least 10 years younger than I am in a job hunt. Though we could just normalize leaveing graduation dates off of resumes... I dont6think that is especially relevant for most jobs.

I completed my undergrad at a pretty normal age of 21, I did my Masters 20 years later... but that's now getting close to 20 years ago so I guess I should remove the date on that one now too.
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