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High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by alan_cx »

sagarun wrote: post #15

One can argue that The Pirate Bay just facilitates copyright violation, It never violates any one's copyright. In fact lot of artist's are publishing content through The Pirate Bay.

Where does that argument stop? Computers facilitate copyright violation, there for PCWorld and Dell do too. Roads facilitate burglary, etc, etc.

They have legitimate uses, I here the idiots cry. Yeah, so do torrents and TPB.

This whole thing reminds me of the prohibition of things like cannabis. Banned on a false economic and scaremongering premiss, yet the laws remain for emotional nonsensical reasons. Logic and reason get left far behind.

I really dont know what to make of governance any more. Politics is insane. Business seems equally insane. I dont know how I fit in to this any more.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by alan_cx »

debacle wrote: post #13
VMG wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably not, but it will make it more difficult for users that aren't tech-savy. (I know that was sarcasm btw)

I don't believe so. Most people I know use Google for their torrent searches. Googling "britney spears torrent" is just going to bring up a different torrent site than tpb. The clear solution is for UK ISPs to ban Google.

I take it we all know that google has a specific custom search for torrents? You dont just have to start with filetype:torrent in a search.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by citricsquid »

corin_ wrote: post #39
citricsquid wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No, it doesn't. TPB doesn't provide any content at all. Not only that, but it also provides links to non-copyright infringing material. Eg: Some of Nine Inch Nails recent releases have been legally made available over bittorrent in 24/96 high quality. And my drug dealer gave $50 to a pregnant woman so that she could get a taxi to the hospital. If you want to argue why this ruling is wrong you should address the iss…

The issue is not with censorship, it's with what they are censoring. Very few people here would take issue with this court order if it was about a site that exclusively hosted child porn. Therefore yes, the context of "is what TBP does illegal?" To extend your (frankly poor) metaphor, he wouldn't be a drug dealer if all he did was hold up a sign pointing you towards your nearest drug dealers and he never actually gav…

Child pornography: illegal Copyright infringement: illegal

censoring child porn websites: right, censoring copyright infringement website: wrong.

Not sure I understand the difference? Either you're for censorship of websites, or you're against it, you can't pick and choose.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by drucken »

VMG wrote: post #40
driverdan wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Weird that they don't publish the numbers themselves. I wonder what the reason might be... They're a private company. They're under no obligation to provide the public with their financial data.

> They're a private company For-Profit?

"The Pirate Bay was started by the swedish anti copyright organization Piratbyrån in the late 2003, but in October 2004 it separated became run by dedicated individuals. In 2006 the site changed it's ownership yet again. Today the site is run by an organisation rather than individuals, though as a non-profit. The organisation is registered in the Seychelles and can be contacted using the contact form."

https://thepiratebay.se/about

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by benologist »

VMG wrote: post #40
driverdan wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Weird that they don't publish the numbers themselves. I wonder what the reason might be... They're a private company. They're under no obligation to provide the public with their financial data.

> They're a private company For-Profit?

How do you not profit off BILLIONS of ad impressions a month?

I can understand some other website believing TPB's a penniless, selfless endeavor but people here should be able to translate "top 100 website" and "multiple ads per page" into more than just operating expenses. It's not like they're YouTube serving terabytes of traffic a second, they also have no support, no shipping, and of course they sure don't have any expense producing content.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by Dylan16807 »

citricsquid wrote: post #43
corin_ wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is not with censorship, it's with what they are censoring. Very few people here would take issue with this court order if it was about a site that exclusively hosted child porn. Therefore yes, the context of "is what TBP does illegal?" To extend your (frankly poor) metaphor, he wouldn't be a drug dealer if all he did was hold up a sign pointing you towards your nearest drug dealers and he never actually gav…

Child pornography: illegal Copyright infringement: illegal censoring child porn websites: right, censoring copyright infringement website: wrong. Not sure I understand the difference? Either you're for censorship of websites, or you're against it, you can't pick and choose.

Hosting illegal things: bad

Saying where to get illegal things: under dispute

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by paulhauggis »

VMG wrote: post #40
driverdan wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Weird that they don't publish the numbers themselves. I wonder what the reason might be... They're a private company. They're under no obligation to provide the public with their financial data.

> They're a private company For-Profit?

Although they are technically a non-profit, the people that run it are probably getting nice salaries off of the hard work of others.

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by smiler »

dafunnie wrote: post #25

Didn't they try to block porn sites last year? David Cameron ostensibly proclaimed that 'porn sites corrupt the British nation' or something in that vein. The UK is beginning to get a tad too draconian for the 21st century.

He of course didn't mind the support of Murdoch's media empire, including the UKs most popular newspaper (The Sun) which carries naked women on page 3 everyday

Re: High Court: The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs

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Post by moron »

citricsquid wrote: post #31
MattBearman wrote: post #17

The ruling is mostly full of shit: Sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists I'd like to see evidence to back this up, innocent until proven guilty and all. The Pirate Bay infringes copyright on a massive scale No, it doesn't. TPB doesn't provide any content at all. Not only that, but it also provides links to non-copyright infringing material. Eg: Some of Nine I…

> No, it doesn't. TPB doesn't provide any content at all. Not only that, but it also provides links to non-copyright infringing material. Eg: Some of Nine Inch Nails recent releases have been legally made available over bittorrent in 24/96 high quality. And my drug dealer gave $50 to a pregnant woman so that she could get a taxi to the hospital. If you want to argue why this ruling is wrong you should address the iss…

Yeah, come on. Let's not pretend this site is something other than what it so clearly is.
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