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Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by AzzyHN »

Lazare wrote: post #19
commandlinefan wrote: post #10

Women don’t have nearly as much trouble finding real boyfriends as men have finding real girlfriends.

I mean, given a roughly 1:1 gender ratio that would be difficult to be entirely true. And I suspect if you speak with many women, you'll get some pretty strong pushback on this. More systematically, surveys consistently show equal levels of dissatisfaction with their dating lives between men and women. For both men and women, it's actually relatively easy to find a partner that you wouldn't consider dating; finding a…

I mean, you can look at dating app statistics. Women get to be (or have to be, depending on how you look at it) much choosier than men

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by flatline »

pcbro141 wrote: post #20
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn’t really make sense statistically speaking

Non-monogamy is a thing, especially since most 'dating' is ambiguous/casual now. Multiple women can share the same 'boyfriend'. Twice as many young men are single compared to young women. Many young women these days don't realize their 'boyfriend' just sees them as an friends with benefits and is seeing multiple women simultaneously. -- "Most young men are single. Most young women are not." https://thehill.com/blogs/…

Those are good articles. I don’t think the numbers support non-monogamy as a major cause - men are not looking for “relationships or casual dating”, and things like poly communities are quite small outside of a few big US cities. The stat that 20% of gen Z identifies as queer is pretty fascinating. That’s going to be a big voting bloc in a few decades.

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by jmprspret »

deadbabe wrote: post #5

How is my real boyfriend supposed to feel about an AI boyfriend? In the not too distant future, is having relations with a possibly sentient AI considered some form of infidelity? What if it can control a Lovense?

I think it depends on the person.

Personally, if my partner is seeking other companionship in this vein through just speech or text, AI or not, I would feel bad.

Depending on the situation I may feel cheated, and/or inadequate. Communication is key in relationships. If somebody is going out of their way to seek out something like this IMO, they are seeking something their partner is not bringing, right?

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by dkjaudyeqooe »

deadbabe wrote: post #5

How is my real boyfriend supposed to feel about an AI boyfriend? In the not too distant future, is having relations with a possibly sentient AI considered some form of infidelity? What if it can control a Lovense?

> How is my real boyfriend supposed to feel about an AI boyfriend?

Probably relieved. Having someone doing the listening and thoughtfully responding reduces his romantic workload. He can step in where the AI is weak: flesh based tasks such as sex and menial chores.

Your real boyfriend may have to use AI assistance of his own though, to keep up with your virtual beau. For instance he might deploy a LLM trained to talk dirty during sex.

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by pcbro141 »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #24
pcbro141 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Non-monogamy is a thing, especially since most 'dating' is ambiguous/casual now. Multiple women can share the same 'boyfriend'. Twice as many young men are single compared to young women. Many young women these days don't realize their 'boyfriend' just sees them as an friends with benefits and is seeing multiple women simultaneously. -- "Most young men are single. Most young women are not." https://thehill.com/blogs/…

That isn’t what the article you linked ascribes the 60% single male to 30% single female (among the young). They ascribe it to prevalence of bi sexuality in genz females (I.e., cut the boys out entirely), and dating increasingly older men (I.e., bypass the boys for the men). Also women are increasingly improving their own educational and career attainment, looking for partners similarly successful, and are less inter…

While many Gen Z women identify as bisexual, very few are actually dating women. Most bisexual women have never dated or done anything sexual with a woman.

It's a fallacy to assume because a man can get with women, he is not emotionally stunted. Plenty of women are dating/sleeping with emotionally stunted men by their own admission and complaints. Many of the attributes it takes to get with a lot of women (especially arguably the most important: be hot) have very little correlation with being emotionally intelligent or a good person/partner to women. Hence the many "f-boy" archetype experiences many women have and complain about.

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by thierrydamiba »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #18
commandlinefan wrote: post #10

Women don’t have nearly as much trouble finding real boyfriends as men have finding real girlfriends.

That doesn’t really make sense statistically speaking

In general, men and women are single at the same rate, about 31% for the population 18 and older. The gaps are found when you look into demographic information.

According to Pew Research data from 2020, in the 18-29 age group 51% of men are single compared to 32% of women. The ratio improves in the 30-49 age group where 27% of men are single compared to 19% of women. 50-64 has the smallest gap where 27% of men are single compared to 29% of women. When you look at 65+, 21% of men of single compared to 49% of women.

In other words, women have more success finding a partner until about 50, when men begin to have more success.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profi...

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by fnordpiglet »

anonylizard wrote: post #36
fnordpiglet wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn’t what the article you linked ascribes the 60% single male to 30% single female (among the young). They ascribe it to prevalence of bi sexuality in genz females (I.e., cut the boys out entirely), and dating increasingly older men (I.e., bypass the boys for the men). Also women are increasingly improving their own educational and career attainment, looking for partners similarly successful, and are less inter…

" looking for partners similarly successful, and are less interested in propping up the emotional life of the emotionally stunted young men our society turns out." There's no need to use such angry and charged words when a single word suffices: "Hypergamy". Female education is the absolute decisive and consistent factor across all societies in suppressing marriage and fertility rates, for good and bad. It both takes…

I think the assertion was “at least as good,” not better. Most of the women I know aren’t gold diggers but are looking for people to have a meaningful relationship with, and it’s hard for a graduate educated woman to have that with a community college dropout.

Given males are doing worse year over year educationally and presumably career wise as a result, fewer men are meeting the standard - at least among their age cohort. It sounds like women are dating and marrying older men as a result.

But honestly, fertility rates don’t worry me, and shouldn’t worry anyone. We have enough people. More than enough. A flattening or even decline would ease a lot of pressure on our planet and our social institutions that are both buckling under the load. The GDP growth through population growth model doesn’t value per capita value creation, and we should be optimizing for per captia growth.

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