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Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

#41
I don't understand why do developers provide hosted version for free? That too when you are short of cash. You have already provided opensource sw, whoever wants to use it can selfhost and bear the infrastructure costs. You can also provide paid version of it for people who don't want to self host. If you do want to subsidize have some other source of income. IT almost feels like self-inflicted pain.

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

#42
As a team lead I have a capped budget that I can spend on tools/saas etc. Unfortunately I cant do a donation using this.

Indie devs need to understand this, put up a pro plan and a checkout link that sends an invoice so that finance folks are ok.

I hope he pulls through this, we need more indie software.

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

#43

I don't understand why do developers provide hosted version for free? That too when you are short of cash. You have already provided opensource sw, whoever wants to use it can selfhost and bear the infrastructure costs. You can also provide paid version of it for people who don't want to self host. If you do want to subsidize have some other source of income. IT almost feels like self-inflicted pain.

The hosted platform is specifically for small projects and personal homepages, not for big businesses. The platform they run probably have monthly expenses below 50 USD/month, I don't think that's their biggest expense, if you compare to rent and groceries...

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

#44
Compare that to Plausible: Over $2M in revenue last year.

Plausible started in 2019. Not sure when [name redacted] started. Clicking on "blame" for the readme file in the repo, I see a commit from 5 years ago.

I can very much empathize that adding a "buy" button is a hump to get over when you just wanna build something cool and share it with like-minded people. I have the same issue with every project I build. I guess one should train to jump over one's shadow in this regard.

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

#46
post #12

Isn’t this obvious candidate for a paid SaaS? Maybe someone more familiar with matter at hand can enlighten me on why the developer doesn’t simply make the hosted version a paid-for service instead of asking for donations?

> why the developer doesn’t simply make the hosted version a paid-for service

Because it's not always simple and being a good developer in many cases doesn't overlap with being good at marketing or business as it's not what they are passionate about. There's a good blog post about Plausible Analytics before and after the marketing co-founder joined, wasn't able to find it right now though.

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

#47
post #44

Compare that to Plausible: Over $2M in revenue last year. Plausible started in 2019. Not sure when [name redacted] started. Clicking on "blame" for the readme file in the repo, I see a commit from 5 years ago. I can very much empathize that adding a "buy" button is a hump to get over when you just wanna build something cool and share it with like-minded people. I have the same issue with every project I build. I gues…

> Not sure when [name redacted] started

"Hello, world" - [name redacted] committed on May 28, 2019 - [link redacted]

Plausible:

"Initial commit" - ukutaht committed - on Sep 2, 2019 - 779d64e19a26a4e4944d4f0d7d9e280a27fbc6e5 - https://github.com/plausible/analytics/commit/779d64e19a26a4...

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

#48
post #44

Compare that to Plausible: Over $2M in revenue last year. Plausible started in 2019. Not sure when [name redacted] started. Clicking on "blame" for the readme file in the repo, I see a commit from 5 years ago. I can very much empathize that adding a "buy" button is a hump to get over when you just wanna build something cool and share it with like-minded people. I have the same issue with every project I build. I gues…

[name redacted] previously offered paid plans. Not sure why that changed.

[link redacted]

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

#50
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A billion of these stories never prepared me for the utter shitshow that laid itself bare to me when I first became a hiring manager. I’m self-taught, am strongly philosophically opposed to educational or past employer ‘prestige’ like working for FAANG or whatever. Still, I learned pretty quickly to not trust a bunch of naive ‘intuitive’ signals.

The hard truth is that Ivy / FAANG talent is usually higher quality. People just don't want to believe it.

I began my career in a startup where pretty much everyone else but myself was an Ivy grad, with many coming from FAANG internships, and I have very high opinions of them. We all were very driven and all had things to teach each other. I don't want to downplay the notion that it's an indicator of high quality talent. I just think that it shouldn't be downplayed that growing up developing software out of an interest in the work is a strong indicator too.
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