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The quote says “capitalist democracy” is an oxymoron. If Thiel is pro-capitalism he thinks democracy is a problem. If he is pro-democracy he thinks capitalism is a problem.
in what way? I think we collectively figured out democracy doesn't work a few thousand years ago. That's why we have a democratic republic.
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Yes, that is what he said. Welfare beneficiaries and women are two groups libertarians find are tough constituencies to appeal to, and both of these groups have increased in size since 1920.
The quote says “capitalist democracy” is an oxymoron. If Thiel is pro-capitalism he thinks democracy is a problem. If he is pro-democracy he thinks capitalism is a problem.
How can society be democratic if the workplace is not?
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Yes, that is what he said. Welfare beneficiaries and women are two groups libertarians find are tough constituencies to appeal to, and both of these groups have increased in size since 1920.
i care little for whatever is going on here but you seem to be purposely ignoring the last part of the sentence. extra welfare + women voting, (both difficult for libertarians blah blah), have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron. edit: downvote all you like, it doesn't magically make a quarter of a sentence not exist.
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#44Is Peter Thiel's opposition to Women's Suffrage still policy at Facebook? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n...
This is the first I'm hearing about this, but "opposition to women's suffrage" seems like a significant misreading. The attitude of "I disagree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it", certainly can apply to voting too, and seems to be at work in this case.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
The quote says “capitalist democracy” is an oxymoron. If Thiel is pro-capitalism he thinks democracy is a problem. If he is pro-democracy he thinks capitalism is a problem.
in what way? I think we collectively figured out democracy doesn't work a few thousand years ago. That's why we have a democratic republic.
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He doesn't say either of those things. Considering the context of a pro-libertarian text, what it means is that the capitalism part of "capitalist democracy" is losing significance as the US is moving more towards a EU-style social democracy. But we all choose to believe what we want to believe. He certainly never said he opposed women's suffrage, as the original commenter claimed.
> the US is moving more towards a EU-style social democracy. The US is doing no such thing :-)
Hell, American unemployment is already quite a lot more (as a percentage of previous income) than I'd get in the UK.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
The quote says “capitalist democracy” is an oxymoron. If Thiel is pro-capitalism he thinks democracy is a problem. If he is pro-democracy he thinks capitalism is a problem.
There is a leap between "X is bad for me" and "X should be banned" . Some people make that leap automatically without even realizing it and assume that everybody else makes that leap too. So for instance, if I say "Soda rots teeth" some people will become indignant, "So you want soda banned?? People have a right to drink what they want you tyrant!" The trouble is that generally people don't make this leap automatical…
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, that is what he said. Welfare beneficiaries and women are two groups libertarians find are tough constituencies to appeal to, and both of these groups have increased in size since 1920.
The quote says “capitalist democracy” is an oxymoron. If Thiel is pro-capitalism he thinks democracy is a problem. If he is pro-democracy he thinks capitalism is a problem.
>Most importantly, I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible. https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/educatio...
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#49Is Peter Thiel's opposition to Women's Suffrage still policy at Facebook? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n...
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in what way? I think we collectively figured out democracy doesn't work a few thousand years ago. That's why we have a democratic republic.
never understood why conservative and libertarians americans want to make a difference between republic and democracy, it is literally in the definition of "republic" that it should be a democracy
It's absurd, just like the bizarre fetish for using the term "Democrat party" as some kind of slur. But that's the essence of American politics now: a constant culture war, where the primary thing people want out of elections is to hurt the other side rather than pursue actual political goals.