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She's not arguing to change the outcome, she's arguing to call out the hypocrisy/bullshit. In some sense it's pointless, yes; in some other sense, you deserve an argument if you don't deal straightly with the person you're laying off.
She's asking for an explanation that they can't give her, and also trying to use some bizarre appeal to emotion by mentioning "trauma" and how much this will upset her life.
This kind of behaviour from HR should be illegal. Be honest and upfront, we're all humans here.
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It actually would be illegal in most of the EU (at the very least in The Netherlands) AFAIK. This is some "only in the US" level stuff (in the context of "The West").
what specifically would be breaking EU/Dutch law here?
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Is “firing” 50 people different from “laying off” 50 people?
You won't be getting unemployment benefits if you are fired. Also professional reputation, negotiation of severance terms, getting a positive reference, rehireability.
You won't get severance if you're fired in most cases.
You won't get unemployment if you voluntarily resign.
It's illegal to record others without their consent! Thats the law. Definitely sucks being laid off but doing such and then posting it online showing your face not very smart!
She is aware, so it’s all fine
I get why she's upset, but what is the point of arguing with these people? They're just the messengers.
She's not arguing to change the outcome, she's arguing to call out the hypocrisy/bullshit. In some sense it's pointless, yes; in some other sense, you deserve an argument if you don't deal straightly with the person you're laying off.
I get why she's upset, but what is the point of arguing with these people? They're just the messengers.
Going viral against an employer, where she acknowledges to have 0 sales...
And pressing to give details multiple times, while they can just remind her about a, just scheduled, upcoming meeting. Since they don't have the details at hand ( probably related to internal policies from the legal department)
I do agree that they could provide more info though. But they repeated multiple times about a new meeting with more details...
She was the only one that knew it was being recorded and she acted accordingly...
It's illegal to record others without their consent! Thats the law. Definitely sucks being laid off but doing such and then posting it online showing your face not very smart!