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> The people who hold the purse strings for Sports Illustrated are more interested in gaming Google search results and the resultant ad revenue from that practice than actually serving their readers. Then by running an ad blocker I'm doing my part to make the world better.
Never thought I'd say this, but in times like these, with clearnet in such dire straits, all the information siloed away inside Discord doesn't seem like such a bad thing. Remaining unindexable by search engines all but guarantees you'll never appear alongside AI slop or be used as training data. The future of the Internet truly is people - the machines can no longer be trusted to perform even the basic tasks they on…
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time to abandon google and go back to web rings.
I don't know how the old web worked, but something decentralized makes sense to me.
Google was a breath of fresh air.
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Going to? It already has. I get about 50 articles for software fixes that have a lot of hot garbage in them before getting to the point. For example I had a discord issue and instead of laying out a fix, the “article” apparently needed a multi paragraph ChatGPT explanation of what discord is before even attempting to show remedies.
People like to make fun of the "2000 word backstory before actually getting to the recipe" about cooking sites, but now I'm finding it with everything. Tried to find news about Baldurs Gate cross-play, and stumbled my way through a giant incoherent mess of an article that had nothing to do with the title.
I feel like we brought this on ourselves when we started autocompleting replies to questions like "How are you?" with, "Fine, thank you." instead of thinking about it and giving honest answers.
Ye like the canned responses in Teams. Removes the fine grained nuances.
But personally, I'm pretty happy about the internet filling up with dogshit, if only because I think it's likely that it will foil the plans of SV, singularitarians, etc.
At the end of the day, ads exist to make money, and until the bots have credit cards that means money from humans. Google etc. will notice it in their bottom line if there's suddenly a lot more "engagement" or traffic in some area but none of that converts to humans spending dollars. Google will start dealing with this problem when it starts appearing in their budget in big enough numbers. The tech layoffs we're hear…
And today, right now, they're all still hiring.
I'm old enough to remember when the Internet was full of organic dog shit.
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Well, unless Discord starts selling it to ai companies right?
No, that's never happened before. You're crazy.
Start filling up Discords with insane AI-generated garbage, and maybe you can devalue the data to the point it won't get sold.
It's probably totally practical too, just create channels filled with insane bots talking to each other, and cultivate the local knowledge that real people just don't go there. Maybe even allow the insane bots on the main channels, and cultivate the understanding that everyone needs to just block them.
It would be important to avoid any kind of widespread conventions about how to do this, since and important goal to to make it practically impossible to algorithmically filter-out the AI generated dogshit when training a model. So don't suffix all the bots with "-bot", everyone just need to be told something like "we block John2993, 3944XNU, SunshineGirl around here."
If we work together, maybe we can turn AI (or at least LLMs) into the next blockchain.
ai going to make google results garbage.
Going to? It already has. I get about 50 articles for software fixes that have a lot of hot garbage in them before getting to the point. For example I had a discord issue and instead of laying out a fix, the “article” apparently needed a multi paragraph ChatGPT explanation of what discord is before even attempting to show remedies.