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Will Google Drive Snoop Inside Your Data? Google Needs to Be Clearer

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Re: Will Google Drive Snoop Inside Your Data? Google Needs to Be Clearer

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Post by ahi »

raldi wrote: post #8
moe wrote: post #5

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Google then proceeds to say the exact opposite in the next paragraph: http://i.imgur.com/dqGgk.png Quote: When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works [...] Full text: http://www.google.com/policies/terms/ Ignoring the fact that paragraph 1 and 2 directly contradict each other,…

You cropped your screenshot a little unfairly -- the very next line is clearly relevant to the discussion: "The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones."

"new ones" could include pretty much anything. "raidi's [source|scripts|recordings|photography] by Google!" The "limited" purpose is so broad Google could resell your video archives to Netflix or your photos to Getty.

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Post by eli »

jeffool wrote: post #32
eli wrote: post #14

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The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. That doesn't seem intentionally vague to me. I suppose a restriction on using vacation photos in their ads would be nice... But is that really what people are concerned about? That doesn't seem very likely or threatening.

The concern is that, say, a musician is in the process of making a new song. Google sees this, and releases the song shortly before the artist releases it themselves, and for free! Now what is the artist to do? The likelihood? Small. But if it happens, you'll have Google befitting from that artist's work, and the artist less able to do so. The artist would have given away his right to sue, possibly unknowingly (becau…

Seems like something that almost never happens, actually. In the list of ways that copyright can screw musicians, this seems very very far down the list.

(and as an aside, you can most definitely sue for copyright infringement no matter what a click-through license says)

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Post by checkers »

remixhacker wrote: post #43

cloud storage in general is a plague. one they have your data they have you. everyone rushing to give third parties their data are walking into traps.

Visit this link to learn more about Google Drive. http://techiest.blogspot.com/.

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Post by joejohnson »

bandy wrote: post #26
joejohnson wrote: post #17

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There are a few problems with using an encrypted volume for everything in your Dropbox/Google Drive (e.g. a TrueCrypt container). For instance, Dropbox's web-interface becomes useless; you can't see any of your files online, and can only access them by downloading the container to a machine with TrueCrypt, then decrypt the volume and retrieve the file you need. This is inconvenient and impossible in some situations.…

That would be SpiderOak. They don't hold your keys - they only hold blocks of data. Everything's encrypted and decrypted on your local box. The exception to that would be data you've marked as sharable.

Oh thank you, I'd never heard of SpiderOak. Do you use it? Does it have all (or most) of the features of Dropbox?

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Post by TheAmazingIdiot »

jeffool wrote: post #33
TheAmazingIdiot wrote: post #19

Does it really matter? I get google mail, with 6+ gigs of quota. I can make free calls via google's email website. I have a google phone number from GVoice. If my phone service is deactivated, I still get calls and texts and transcription. All I need then is to log in via a free wifi. I have all my contacts saved from my phone, along with free recording and voicemail transcription. I have a full history of what I've…

FYI, your Google Voice calls are using your minutes and won't continue if you stop your plan. (Unless you're using some kind of work around.) Maybe I misread... Just thought you should know. Good luck with the job hunt! I'm in the exact same boat!

I get around a good chunk of problems with an unlocked jailbroken iPhone 3GS and a service called Family Mobile. Family mobile is a t-mobile service with Walmart branded name. I still have 10$ off per month from being a former employee. It'd normally be $65/2 lines/month.

2 lines, unlimited text and phone, with free 2g data is 55$ a month. Also all "pay SMS" and other scammy services are neutered by the provider unless I explicitly allow them.

I also live at my parents, so in a pinch, I can redirect GVoice to the house landline. It's not the best of solutions, but it does work.

Be aware, you're not watching YouTube and stuff from the speed of connection. However it's awesome for emails and tethering. I can do an amazing amount of work from an eeePC (gifted) and a tethered iPhone, with google services.

The interview went awesomely well. It's for level 2 tech at a university

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Post by bandy »

joejohnson wrote: post #45
bandy wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be SpiderOak. They don't hold your keys - they only hold blocks of data. Everything's encrypted and decrypted on your local box. The exception to that would be data you've marked as sharable.

Oh thank you, I'd never heard of SpiderOak. Do you use it? Does it have all (or most) of the features of Dropbox?

I am no longer a user - mostly because I'm not paranoid enough (everything up on dropbox is basically public info) and I have old slow computers that take forever to run the python programs (circa '09/'10) that do the encryption. But yes, it basically works like dropbox. Have program running, place files in magic folder, files get synced to cloud.
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