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Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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If you’re interested in ML training, to save you some time, RTX 4080 Super and RTX 4070 Ti Super have 16GB GDDR6X, the RTX 4070 Super has 12GB.

It seems they’re being very careful not to undercut their enterprise offerings or even the 4090. Assuming they’re not completely tone deaf, I can only assume this is the explanation.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#42
post #30

At this point I'll just wait for the 5000 series, especially the 5080. Will be out in ~12-14 months.

Generally a wise decision when it comes to anything that has this type of release schedule, from phones to 3D printers. Buy one generation, skip one, maybe upgrade the next, depending on relevant improvements.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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post #13
post #7

If you’re interested in ML training, to save you some time, RTX 4080 Super and RTX 4070 Ti Super have 16GB GDDR6X, the RTX 4070 Super has 12GB.

Thanks! That rules them out completely EDIT: For training

Very good. Maybe as a gamer I can get one eventually for reasonable price.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#46

> All three GeForce RTX 40 SUPER Series GPUs are faster than their predecessors It's weird that they're only comparing the new cards to the RTX 30's and 20's, and not the "v1" 40's. I assume the 4080 SUPER is faster than the 4080 (based on name?) but it seems cheaper and there's absolutely no comparison data

This was what I came to comment. Very strange. This article https://beebom.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-4070-ti-super-gpu-specs-r... says "the RTX 4070 Ti Super is up to 10% faster than the non-Super 4070 Ti on average" So, on average, up to 10% faster, yeah seems pretty incremental.

Which is what the Super cards usually are. A minor 'mid cycle' refresh/improvement on cards, moving better components down the line to cheaper cards.

But yes, very weird that none of the comparions actually show them!.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#47
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering the poor generational performance uplift the original 4000 series cards had vs the 3000 series - it almost seems like these super variants are what nVidia should have originally launched. :-/

Poor performance uplift? The 4080 is significantly faster than the 3090 with much lower power consumption!

The 4080/4090 are outliers of the generation though unfortunately, and also are themselves still a rather typical generational gain at that.

Most of the rest of the 40xx stack was either unexpectedly slow or unexpectedly expensive (or both), such that performance per dollar stayed flat or regressed

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#48

> All three GeForce RTX 40 SUPER Series GPUs are faster than their predecessors It's weird that they're only comparing the new cards to the RTX 30's and 20's, and not the "v1" 40's. I assume the 4080 SUPER is faster than the 4080 (based on name?) but it seems cheaper and there's absolutely no comparison data

This stands out like a sore thumb for anyone even taking a glance at the graphs. Who there thought this was a good idea? Now I think the Supers are just going to be 10% faster while drawing 30% more power or something else hacky and desperate-seeming.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#49
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does orphaned mean in this context?

The two parent 2080s were lost in a tragic cryptocurrency mining accident when the bitcoin ceiling collapsed. Please send donations to the Aboveground Miners fund in your choice of shitcoin.

I get that it's supposed to be funny, but I wonder how many people still think bitcoin mining happens on GPUs, particularly Nvidia ones. Pretty sure that stopped being the case like 14 years ago or something? Anyway...

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#50
post #42
post #30

At this point I'll just wait for the 5000 series, especially the 5080. Will be out in ~12-14 months.

Generally a wise decision when it comes to anything that has this type of release schedule, from phones to 3D printers. Buy one generation, skip one, maybe upgrade the next, depending on relevant improvements.

With CPUs I'd say skip more than 1. I've been doing every 4 generations, and given how poorly Intel's 14th gen performed, I'm waiting another still.

The improvements are very small in this space right now, for the most part.

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