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Coal and fossil fuel use in Germany at a record low for electricity in 2023

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Re: Coal and fossil fuel use in Germany at a record low for electricity in 2023

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...and that's all because they take electricity from Czech Republic and France, leading to increased prices there. It's like with being green by dumping trash to Poland which regularly lets it burn in the open. "Solutions"

Unlikely given that Germany has been the biggest exporter of electricity in the world for 13 of the last 15 years.

https://oec.world/en/profile/hs/electricity

Re: Coal and fossil fuel use in Germany at a record low for electricity in 2023

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Please explain how the winter temps affect electricity use. Heating only accounts for 4% of household heating sources in Germany [1]. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1189752/household-heatin...

My parent's comment was about total energy usage.

That doesn't make sense, though, as the charts refer to electricity generation, not primary energy.

Re: Coal and fossil fuel use in Germany at a record low for electricity in 2023

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It isn't a fair comparison as Germany has terrible geography in comparison to the US for energy generation, and certain energy sources like hydropower are very efficient, but not possible to replicate given the environmental impact. Hell, even solar generation in Germany isn't anywhere as good as the US, where it can build solar parks in the south, meanwhile most of Germany has what, 6 hours of daylight during winter…

The US also has got enormous and inexhaustible (all together) coal mines, and oil fields of course. The price of natural gas is negative in some parts of Texas.

Texas has 100GW of solar and 50GW of batteries in ERCOT’s interconnect queue. Eleven times smaller than Australia, far more rapid and ambitious decarbonization based on the economics alone. I would not expect the remaining coal (14GW) and gas (66GW) in Texas to be around long.

(we deployed about 1GW/day of solar on average globally in 2023, and this is expected to rise to ~2.7GW in 2024, reaching 1TW deployed annually; the US is also now one of the largest LNG exporters in the world)

Re: Coal and fossil fuel use in Germany at a record low for electricity in 2023

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Germany is killing it. Since I've moved here I've been following renewable energy numbers and also what the government commits to, and it's incredible how they've managed to meet consistently the solar and wind generation goals. Unfortunately, they haven't been able to meet other goals such as amount of housing built etc. But coming from a third-world country where I wouldn't trust any kind of plans coming from the g…

And that's in a current political situation with three parties in the government that disagree all the time. Imagine what could be done in more stable times! The huge issue I see is that they fail to implement enough social balancing, which leads to more and more people voting for the extreme right wing party AfD, which will cause a lot of trouble after the next elections.

Politics in a democratic regime end up reflecting the desire of the people, if somebody is to blame for this mess are the voters themselves.

This situation makes AFD temporarily strong, but also gives space to other parties to perhaps say yes again to atomic energy and other non-conventional ideas.

Also brings more power to CDU and other parties that resembles more stability. Politics is a self-balancing system, it's not so useful to care about it.

Re: Coal and fossil fuel use in Germany at a record low for electricity in 2023

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Germany is killing it. Since I've moved here I've been following renewable energy numbers and also what the government commits to, and it's incredible how they've managed to meet consistently the solar and wind generation goals. Unfortunately, they haven't been able to meet other goals such as amount of housing built etc. But coming from a third-world country where I wouldn't trust any kind of plans coming from the g…

German here. German middle class considers the current political situation (across all federal layers) the least trustworthy in at least 30-50 years. The majority of the people is frustrated AF because of government paralysis for no real reasons but political gambling.

It's that bad that >90% of my friends and acquaintances chose to not read the news anymore and go with ignorance and escapism. Germany seems to be going through some kind of identity crisis right now (we lack most competencies for 21st century and used to cover all problems with money and arrogance) and chances are not that low we'll end up with far right leadership.

(The only good thing is that the German army is that much underfunded and bureaucratic that a military coup is impossible. /s)

Re: Coal and fossil fuel use in Germany at a record low for electricity in 2023

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My parent's comment was about total energy usage.

That doesn't make sense, though, as the charts refer to electricity generation, not primary energy.

Oh, I'm sorry. I took "total energy consumed" too literally. You've been right and my comment doesn't make that much sense for electricity.

Re: Coal and fossil fuel use in Germany at a record low for electricity in 2023

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> China permitted more coal power plants last year than any time in the last seven years, according to a new report released this week. It's the equivalent of about two new coal power plants per week. The report by energy data organizations Global Energy Monitor and the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air finds the country quadrupled the amount of new coal power approvals in 2022 compared to 2021. > That's de…

China is also building enough renewable power than their grid expansion rate leading to a structural decline in CO2 emissions. At the same time the utilization factors of the coal plants reduce each year. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/13/chinas-carb...

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Re: Coal and fossil fuel use in Germany at a record low for electricity in 2023

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And that's in a current political situation with three parties in the government that disagree all the time. Imagine what could be done in more stable times! The huge issue I see is that they fail to implement enough social balancing, which leads to more and more people voting for the extreme right wing party AfD, which will cause a lot of trouble after the next elections.

Politics in a democratic regime end up reflecting the desire of the people, if somebody is to blame for this mess are the voters themselves. This situation makes AFD temporarily strong, but also gives space to other parties to perhaps say yes again to atomic energy and other non-conventional ideas. Also brings more power to CDU and other parties that resembles more stability. Politics is a self-balancing system, it's…

I'd agree if only we had more time to solve the upcoming challenges. But currently it looks like no one's going to be strong enough to do the right things. Four years are a lot of (wasted) time in the short period we have left.
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