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Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by sqrt_1 »

ethanbond wrote: post #28
slibhb wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you extend this policy to "consuming a video/image/text message," that would be dystopian. But this is about porn. Maybe it'll be a slippery slope but I doubt it. I wouldn't vote for this policy but I get it. Lots of people don't want kids watching porn. And it's not just social conservativism, people across the political spectrum think porn is addictive, psychologically damaging, and leads to sexual dysfunction.

I mean a town in Tennessee recently outlawed homosexuality in public. I can easily see this being applied to anything with LGBT material, sexual or not. That said, yeah, I get the motivation. I put this in a similar category as the regulatory response to Airbnb/Ubers of the world: it seems like a better outcome may have been possible if the companies didn’t totally and flagrantly shirk their social obligations to beg…

I don't think a town in Tennessee recently outlawed homosexuality in public,

They just added: "No person shall knowingly while in a public space engage in indecent behavior, display, distribute, or broadcast indecent material, conduct indecent events, or facilitate any of the foregoing prohibited acts."

Problem was that the referenced indecent statue definition included homosexuality, which was then removed from the definition even before it blew up on social media

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/11/22/ten...

https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/nov/28/did-a-city-in...

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by bluefinity »

Gigachad wrote: post #30
falcor84 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who considers himself a relatively informed netizen, I hadn't even heard of e621.net until now, and I don't know whether I should be proud or ashamed of that.

E621 is probably the best porn site on the internet tbh. I’ve never seen a site so well organised and searchable.

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Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by hattmall »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #39
mjevans wrote: post #14

What if you had to show Government ID whenever you entered a grocery store, a library, a movie theater? What if you were tracked each time you consumed a video, a still image, an audio clip, or even a text message? What if the government kept a record of any or all of those checks? What if they arranged for third parties to commercialize that data so they could 'legally' end-run any restriction on domestic spying wit…

While I strongly disagree with this NC law, and others, your analogy is a bad one. As a society I think we've accepted that some things (cigarettes, alcohol, sex, etc.) should be restricted from children. That's a far cry from requiring ID every time I go to the grocery store. But, as long as I've been alive, you have had to show ID to purchase alcohol, and the sky hasn't fallen. Again, I think these types of laws ar…

You had to show ID to buy porn magazines, go in a strip club or even the adult video rental room.

It's pretty insane that we have no check for an unlimited amount of free porn with all kinds of extremes.

It fucks up a lot of kids (and adults).

Showing porn to a random kid on the street would have you catch a charge if not something worse, but somehow on the Internet it's just fine?

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by sneak »

mjevans wrote: post #14

What if you had to show Government ID whenever you entered a grocery store, a library, a movie theater? What if you were tracked each time you consumed a video, a still image, an audio clip, or even a text message? What if the government kept a record of any or all of those checks? What if they arranged for third parties to commercialize that data so they could 'legally' end-run any restriction on domestic spying wit…

You have to show government-ID-linked payment card information to shop at most shops in airports, or to buy plane tickets.

Most people use a SIM card that is tied to same. Their web activity is similarly tied to ID.

Most USians voluntarily provide that payment card (with full name in the magstripe) whenever they shop at a grocery store or movie theater.

I’m not sure why people think this sort of surveillance isn’t occurring. We’ve known since before Snowden that the feds have been receiving this data in bulk in realtime for decades.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by Kamq »

thinkerswell wrote: post #12
mc32 wrote: post #3

Ignoring other (obvious) issues, it’ll be interesting to see how people respond. Do they seek different entertainment? Does it lead to more or less socially desirable/adjusted behavior?

Generally you get more of what you subsidize, so my bet is that this will lead to less porn consumption, an absolutely massive win.

Given that access to porn is strongly negatively correlated with violent rape across most cultures I've seen studied, I'm not sure you should be cheering this.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by maxbond »

slibhb wrote: post #20
mjevans wrote: post #14

What if you had to show Government ID whenever you entered a grocery store, a library, a movie theater? What if you were tracked each time you consumed a video, a still image, an audio clip, or even a text message? What if the government kept a record of any or all of those checks? What if they arranged for third parties to commercialize that data so they could 'legally' end-run any restriction on domestic spying wit…

If you extend this policy to "consuming a video/image/text message," that would be dystopian. But this is about porn. Maybe it'll be a slippery slope but I doubt it. I wouldn't vote for this policy but I get it. Lots of people don't want kids watching porn. And it's not just social conservativism, people across the political spectrum think porn is addictive, psychologically damaging, and leads to sexual dysfunction.

> [P]eople across the political spectrum think porn is addictive, psychologically damaging, and leads to sexual dysfunction.

I think everyone acknowledges it can be, but it's a pretty distinct cohort that holds it necessarily is. Definitely not that it inevitably leads to sexual dysfunction, that's just patently untrue.

Most adults consume pornography, and for the vast majority of them it isn't a problem. Every adult who's sex life I know anything about, watches porn. They're fine.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by brettgo1 »

mjevans wrote: post #14

What if you had to show Government ID whenever you entered a grocery store, a library, a movie theater? What if you were tracked each time you consumed a video, a still image, an audio clip, or even a text message? What if the government kept a record of any or all of those checks? What if they arranged for third parties to commercialize that data so they could 'legally' end-run any restriction on domestic spying wit…

Thank god for those librarians fighting for our liberty. Read a book everyone!

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by networkchad »

hattmall wrote: post #44
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I strongly disagree with this NC law, and others, your analogy is a bad one. As a society I think we've accepted that some things (cigarettes, alcohol, sex, etc.) should be restricted from children. That's a far cry from requiring ID every time I go to the grocery store. But, as long as I've been alive, you have had to show ID to purchase alcohol, and the sky hasn't fallen. Again, I think these types of laws ar…

You had to show ID to buy porn magazines, go in a strip club or even the adult video rental room. It's pretty insane that we have no check for an unlimited amount of free porn with all kinds of extremes. It fucks up a lot of kids (and adults). Showing porn to a random kid on the street would have you catch a charge if not something worse, but somehow on the Internet it's just fine?

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