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Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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I don't really use my phone as a software developer, mostly because I have my pc with me all the time and pretty much all software is better on pc than on phones (thanks Apple/Google). I don't really know what people are doing to be addicted to their phones? maybe you're just addicted to social media? find other hobbies...

"Phone" is a shorthand, because a ton of people seem to be using phones as their primary computing devices. They're streamlined and they have everything the average Joe could ever want - mostly a few social media apps and similar.

But also, the wording is definitely deliberate - the post is published by a company that's developed an iPhone app to combat this "addiction". So there's definitely some marketing angle involved here.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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I don't really use my phone as a software developer, mostly because I have my pc with me all the time and pretty much all software is better on pc than on phones (thanks Apple/Google). I don't really know what people are doing to be addicted to their phones? maybe you're just addicted to social media? find other hobbies...

This for one. This site is on the dopamine list. Phone is a metaphor. Choose your addictions wisely. Edit: removed unnecessary, kinda rude, wording.

What other sites are on the dopamine list?

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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We'll forever be addicted to the shared global (or interplanetary at some point) information network, but the phone itself won't be needed forever. I don't think there's a way to get a human to not want to know what other people think about stuff or to more generally get information for free in real time. This plus access to computational power is a pretty good combo. If the interface is a brain chip or a phone or wh…

People complain all the time about "being addicted to our phones" but my memory of the world pre-smartphone was that newspapers and magazines were everywhere and frankly...I'm not really seeing the difference - in quality or content. Because while "the newspaper" was always considered respectable...that's ignoring the endless mounds of gossip magazines, fashion magazines, lifestyle...basically every category which ha…

There is a difference in scale - smartphones give access to a much wider array of content, even if you were to carry around a television and 20 newspapers.

There is also an important difference in kind - internet connected devices are bidirectional, which allows bad actors to implement addictive patterns that aren’t possible with one-directional media.

A big part of McLuhan’s idea of “the medium is the message” is that consuming the same content via two different mediums is not the same.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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I think the only hope is if the next generation sees it as something that only out of touch old people do...

Well yeah, they will - if anything, because it's likely we'll have some brand new method of ingesting information available in the near future - just like smartphones replaced desktop computers that replaced physical media as the "mainstream" information sources, something will eventually replace what we have now.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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It’s not just what the phones give us (in terms of connectivity), it seems we’re addicted to the light itself (same with TV before). Presumably, this is some primal sitting-round-the-fire type impulse.

I don’t think smartphones would be meaningfully less addictive if they used old school, non backlit display technology.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People didn't pull out a magazine while in a group and read an article for 5 minutes. a bus wouldn't be literally filled with nothing but people reading magazines and books, nobody punished their children by taking their magazines away. We did have, say, "portable entertainment". music players were kinda similar to this too, but yeah there is a massive difference.

> People didn't pull out a magazine while in a group and read an article for 5 minutes Are you being sarcastic? I'm 57 and I recall they absolutely DID do those things in the 70's and 80's. Trains and station platforms? Google some photos!

I mean, it's even a trope that a private detective, trying to go unnoticed in a group of people, would pull out a newspaper...

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Luddites and neoludites and similar Amish type will expand their foothold into different cultures. I personally am going to be adjusting my usage as it is impacting my life and negative ways. I've already added timers and limits and will soon be going to grayscale only. What I do hope for which does not yet exist is the ability to use voice GPT at selective moments with a finger tap of an ear bud. I have noticed a gr…

I'm curious - why would an earbud-activated LLM be preferable to just the normal interface with typing in the request? And why GPT specifically?

I can see the point with technologies that integrate directly into the surrounding environment, like using Google Lens to look up information about a real object, or translate printed text, and so on. But the LLM will still be a text generator either way - is it just about being able to dictate a request out loud and have the reply be read back?

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Luddites and neoludites and similar Amish type will expand their foothold into different cultures. I personally am going to be adjusting my usage as it is impacting my life and negative ways. I've already added timers and limits and will soon be going to grayscale only. What I do hope for which does not yet exist is the ability to use voice GPT at selective moments with a finger tap of an ear bud. I have noticed a gr…

Sounds like you may want https://hu.ma.ne/

$700 + $24/month subscription? Wow, that functionality better be really good.
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