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Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#41

Slightly related, but just today I discovered this SteamOS redistribution for generic machines (as long as they don’t have Nvidia graphics): https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso

Okay, so I read that page and I understand that nvidia graphics are very much a no-go for that distribution. I’m just wondering why? Full disclosure, I know very little about the finer points of GPU compatibility on Linux, but why isn’t it just a matter of installing nvidia’s closed source packages?

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#42

Oooh, looks cool ! I was just googling for something like "pc with steamdeck like specs" because I don't need the portability, I can't stand fan noise but I'd like Steam's ease of use. Now there is a path to a "normal"/quiet/dedicated PC to easily run games. But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the Steamdeck ? Also: > - Comes with patches from SteamO…

> But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the Steamdeck?

I run a homegrown gaming htpc with an R5-5600, Radeon 6800XT, and then the Xbox wireless dongle and 4 Xbone controllers with Bazzite.

You'd be surprised at how much of heavy lifting is done by the kernel and mesa stacks, that's where the real work is done. Fedora does a good job pulling in kernel and mesa updates relatively quickly and the steam client handles the proton updates.

There's also great synergy between Bazzite, ChimeraOS, and Nobara, which are all gaming focused distros. Lots of code sharing and teamwork happening there, which is awesome to see. Everything is open for people to hack on.

It acts like a big steamdeck, all the performance overlays work, all the xbox controllers work ootb, fsr works, etc. - you do need to pair the controllers with each controller but that's a one time thing. I've personally completed God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Baldur's Gate 3 and other AAA campaigns in 4k. And then when I need to travel all my game progress is on my deck. It's a full multi device experience.

But to set expectations: VR and multiplayer games that don't opt into EAC or use kernel-level anti cheat are a no-op, as well as anything Epic makes. To me it's just like any console platform, you get lots of games, and some games you can't play. At this stage in the game both Windows and Linux suffer from the same UX shit show, horrible third party launchers are the worst problem with either set up.

Disclaimer: I'm involved in universal blue but don't directly contribute to bazzite.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#43
Love it! Living-room media servers will be the Trojan horse that brings self-hosting back into existence, and will inevitably transform the internet back into a more peer-to-peer oriented existence. Once most folks have symmetrical connections and powerful Linux systems, it’s only a software problem keeping people from using the internet as it was intended, equally publishers as they are consumers.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#44
post #37

This looks interesting, but what do I lose by switching to it? Does the Steam interface still work? The hardware? The games?

Yep! Everything works as it does with SteamOS but better (more fixes) and a better desktop environment.

Installation is pretty quick too! Here’s a video I made showing the process https://youtu.be/doQW1FyAISQ

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#45

10Gb of "everything is a Flatpak" isn't exciting.

The only flatpaks here are ones installed by the user after setup, or ones installed by Fedora (Firefox for instance, you don't want your browser updating only when your OS does). Steam, gamescope, and nearly every other listed feature are native packages.

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Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#46

Oooh, looks cool ! I was just googling for something like "pc with steamdeck like specs" because I don't need the portability, I can't stand fan noise but I'd like Steam's ease of use. Now there is a path to a "normal"/quiet/dedicated PC to easily run games. But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the Steamdeck ? Also: > - Comes with patches from SteamO…

> But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the Steamdeck ?

Every single one of these should be present, along with our own tweaks and changes made upstream at Fedora.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#47

10Gb of "everything is a Flatpak" isn't exciting.

The only flatpaks here are ones installed by the user after setup, or ones installed by Fedora (Firefox for instance, you don't want your browser updating only when your OS does). Steam, gamescope, and nearly every other listed feature are native packages.

Brand new first boot Bazzite Gnome. That's 7Gb of flatpaks.

  $ flatpak list --columns=size,name | grep MB| grep -Po '\d+\.\d+'| paste -sd+ | bc
  7025.2

  $ flatpak list --columns=size,name | wc -l
  54

  $ df -h /
  Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
  /dev/sda3       232G   15G  214G   7% /

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#48
post #43

Love it! Living-room media servers will be the Trojan horse that brings self-hosting back into existence, and will inevitably transform the internet back into a more peer-to-peer oriented existence. Once most folks have symmetrical connections and powerful Linux systems, it’s only a software problem keeping people from using the internet as it was intended, equally publishers as they are consumers.

I love this take and absolutely hate what the centralized internet has become. My god, even basic searches don’t work on major platforms.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#49
post #41

Slightly related, but just today I discovered this SteamOS redistribution for generic machines (as long as they don’t have Nvidia graphics): https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso

Okay, so I read that page and I understand that nvidia graphics are very much a no-go for that distribution. I’m just wondering why? Full disclosure, I know very little about the finer points of GPU compatibility on Linux, but why isn’t it just a matter of installing nvidia’s closed source packages?

IIUC As the SteamDeck does only use AMD GPUs they have no incentive to support their UI on Nvidia GPUs.
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