Is it new, though?
I've been in the industry for a very long time, and being ghosted has always been my standard experience when I didn't get a position I interviewed for.
Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting
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Re: Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting
#42One of my top lessons I've learned doing successful startups: 1. Recruiting is the #1 job of any startup CEO, and the #1 determiner of corporate success. 2. Up market, down market, side market, it doesn't matter: You will get better employees if you treat candidates with respect and you will be more competitive. 3. It's a lot of work for the 95% of clowns out there you interview, and there's a push towards automated…
> is one of the lowest value-add tasks you can bring on, from a purely selfish / incentive structures perspective.
At one place I worked, interviewing was one of the check marks you could participate in for promotions.
Re: Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting
#43What I've never really understood is that though recruiters (external but also in-house) are typically paid on hiring candidates, much like sales people.
And in that paradigm, why is ghosting so common? As a recruiter, a lot of your value is your professional network that you can pull from to place candidates. Why would you ever ghost people that, while not a good fit for this role, could be a good fit for a different role in the future?
Even as someone not in recruiting, I've made several connections with folks in the interviewing process (both as interviewer and interviewee) that have led to either new business deals or job placement later on.
Just never really made sense to me, interviewing is "free" networking. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting
#44One of my top lessons I've learned doing successful startups: 1. Recruiting is the #1 job of any startup CEO, and the #1 determiner of corporate success. 2. Up market, down market, side market, it doesn't matter: You will get better employees if you treat candidates with respect and you will be more competitive. 3. It's a lot of work for the 95% of clowns out there you interview, and there's a push towards automated…
> treat candidates with respect
> 95% of clowns out there you interview
What's your company affiliation?
Re: Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting
#45This is anecdotal but, if the new normal was 10 years ago then sure. I stared out my career then and ghosting was common….
Re: Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting
#46as a founder recruiting engineers of various skillsets/expertise i simply don't have the bandwidth to respond to every non-qualified candidate.
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Re: Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting
#47I've been ghosted twice lately. One was someone reaching out via Hacker News for an initial chat where they said "let's put you through our interview process" and then ghosted. The other was for a startup, similar situation, "let's set up a chat with our CEO", then ghosted.
The commonality here is an inability to just be honest and say "doesn't seem like a good fit". Disappointing, and ironically, an indication that it really wouldn't be a good fit. I don't want to work with people who are unable to deliver uncomfortable news respectfully, or even, at all.
Re: Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have enough candidates that it's too much work to reject people, you likely have enough candidates to merit at least a simple templating and candidate management app or plugin. It is absolutely trivial to one-click reject groups of people.
95% of candidates aren’t relevant or qualified
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Re: Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting
#49One of my top lessons I've learned doing successful startups: 1. Recruiting is the #1 job of any startup CEO, and the #1 determiner of corporate success. 2. Up market, down market, side market, it doesn't matter: You will get better employees if you treat candidates with respect and you will be more competitive. 3. It's a lot of work for the 95% of clowns out there you interview, and there's a push towards automated…
You'd think if professional sports could figure out how important this is we could too, but for some reason there's a tendency to give it lip service then put absolutely no effort into doing a good job. Scouting and screenings are done by people that companies treat like dirt, we incentivize them only for body count, interviews are done by low experience employees and employees who don't even like interviewing. We don't know how to identify and cultivate talent in this industry yet, it's clearly dysfunctional and deprioritized.
Re: Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have enough candidates that it's too much work to reject people, you likely have enough candidates to merit at least a simple templating and candidate management app or plugin. It is absolutely trivial to one-click reject groups of people.
95% of candidates aren’t relevant or qualified
Did you read the comment you replied to?