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High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by Beached »

ryukoposting wrote: post #16
yellow_lead wrote: post #3

It's probably a flipper zero. There is a Bluetooth iOS spamming script which can cause the devices to freeze or crash.

Wow, what a funky little device! Thanks for the lead, I might have to pick up one of these things. It looks good for hack ing but is it hack able itself? An exposed JTAG port would have this thing shipping to my home right now.

fully hackable. they give you for shell access over USB, and it has exposed io ports for custom accessories. they encourage you to play around with the firmware and expand its capabilities how're you want, it is part of the product design and intention

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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rdtsc wrote: post #22

I liked the first comment there: > "According to an APS statement, 'by turning off those teenagers' phones, the student created a dangerous environment in which students might actually have been able to learn something instead of staring at their phones all day. We're just not equipped to handle that kind of thing, so we called the police instead.'"

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Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by NegativeLatency »

cryptoz wrote: post #30
mentos wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ha when i was in school we used 'punters' to kick people off AOL

I remember turning off hallway TVs in school with a visor handspring and an IR app.

I had an android tablet with an IR blaster in it (the Sony tablet s) and had endless fun putting Macs with the remote receiver to sleep. Hold down the play button like on an iPod and people’s laptops would just go to sleep while they were using them.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by ace2358 »

rdtsc wrote: post #22

I liked the first comment there: > "According to an APS statement, 'by turning off those teenagers' phones, the student created a dangerous environment in which students might actually have been able to learn something instead of staring at their phones all day. We're just not equipped to handle that kind of thing, so we called the police instead.'"

A few states in Australia have outright banned phones in schools. I have a few teacher friends. I’ve heard the students still aren’t interested in learning… (Jokes aside I think it’s going great for the kids and the teachers in aus)

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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pennomi wrote: post #15
ryukoposting wrote: post #13

"nearby" + plaform specificity? This screams Bluetooth. Side note: iOS's BT stack has a handful of oddly specific requirements for peripherals. It wouldn't surprise me that those requirements precipitate from... cough design oversights.

This was around a decade ago, but I remember having a use case where sending too much data to the Bluetooth stack on iPhone would crash the Bluetooth stack so hard that only a factory reset would fix it. I have no doubt that lingering vulnerabilities exist in that stack.

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Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by EMIRELADERO »

ace2358 wrote: post #44
rdtsc wrote: post #22

I liked the first comment there: > "According to an APS statement, 'by turning off those teenagers' phones, the student created a dangerous environment in which students might actually have been able to learn something instead of staring at their phones all day. We're just not equipped to handle that kind of thing, so we called the police instead.'"

A few states in Australia have outright banned phones in schools. I have a few teacher friends. I’ve heard the students still aren’t interested in learning… (Jokes aside I think it’s going great for the kids and the teachers in aus)

Does the ban extend to recesses/entire school grounds?

I was very introverted throught my childhood and spent my first school years' recesses not talking to anyone, just mindlessly wandering the hallways and yard. It got to a point where I didn't even know many of my classmate's names, even after spending years "with them".

When I grew old enough to have my own phone that I could bring to school, it made recesses more bearable. It didn't sabotage or disincentivize any social interactions, because before that moment I had almost none with peers. Looking back on it, I didn't "lose out" on socialization because of phone use, as I simply didn't have any beforehand.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by jojobas »

EMIRELADERO wrote: post #47
ace2358 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few states in Australia have outright banned phones in schools. I have a few teacher friends. I’ve heard the students still aren’t interested in learning… (Jokes aside I think it’s going great for the kids and the teachers in aus)

Does the ban extend to recesses/entire school grounds? I was very introverted throught my childhood and spent my first school years' recesses not talking to anyone, just mindlessly wandering the hallways and yard. It got to a point where I didn't even know many of my classmate's names, even after spending years "with them". When I grew old enough to have my own phone that I could bring to school, it made recesses mor…

School grounds at all times. Being alone with your thoughts is still better than scrolling all day.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by senectus1 »

EMIRELADERO wrote: post #47
ace2358 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few states in Australia have outright banned phones in schools. I have a few teacher friends. I’ve heard the students still aren’t interested in learning… (Jokes aside I think it’s going great for the kids and the teachers in aus)

Does the ban extend to recesses/entire school grounds? I was very introverted throught my childhood and spent my first school years' recesses not talking to anyone, just mindlessly wandering the hallways and yard. It got to a point where I didn't even know many of my classmate's names, even after spending years "with them". When I grew old enough to have my own phone that I could bring to school, it made recesses mor…

yes, its is at my kids schools

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by userbinator »

seanhunter wrote: post #35

Before any gets inspired by this and tries to use an F0 for assorted hijinks like this, just make sure you understand the legal framework in your country. In the UK where I am for example, this is almost certainly “deliberate interference with wireless telegraphy” which can carry a 2 year prison sentence. Not saying that the law isn’t an ass, just that you might want to know what you’re getting yourself into before y…

I've always thought "wireless telegraphy" was an anachronistic, yet elegant term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_telegraphy

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