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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla's roll out of the factory with things out of limits all the time. Headlights being a big thing, not adjusted within the rules for the TUV (or Dutch APK) even when the car is brand new.

I swear that most model 3's I see in Europe have their headlights adjusted up so high that they're still looking for German aircraft. It's blinding.

Same down here in Australia. Every blinding incoming car is a Dodge Ram size truck where the lights are so high blind you from above and model Ys where they seem to point up into incoming cars.

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Own a Dacia. At least when it breaks the parts are cheap :) New wing mirror cost me £25!

I owned almost a dozen Dacia's, but not the Logan. I never got to a car shop for any repairs until I had one with warranty, otherwise I was doing all the repairs on my own, including engine rebuilds and even a chassis swap (brand new car totalled in a crash, bough a new chassis and swapped every single part to it).

So, labor was cheap, parts were cheap, cost of ownership was cheap :)

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As a Model Y owner, the lack of a service interval is really annoying. I want to pay Tesla to make sure my car stays safe and reliable, but I can't.

All this should be recommended in the UI. The car DOES have maintenance needs. Lots of people in models X & S are surprised to find their seemingly ok tires are NOT OK because they wear very quickly on the non-visible inside edge. there are brakes on the car, which have pads and fluid. There is coolant for the battery. Honestly, there should be a maintenance screen in the UI. You should be able to replace tires, or w…

There is a service screen in the UI with alerts and details on when tires were last changed. There is an alert for windshield fluid.

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Tesla cars are interesting. The drivetrain and the battery are very reliable and will likely be never need service. But everything else is shitty. The construction quality, random breakages, neverending rattles are annoying. My Tesla spent more time in service than my partner's Toyota, and this includes regular oil changes.

This makes me a feel a lot better about choosing a Toyota over a Tesla back in 2019.

The one unforgivable thing about the Toyota is the infotainment system. What a blight on humanity.

But otherwise, such a great car. I’ve never really liked cars until this thing. It’s so comfortable, reliable, cheap to maintain, and makes all of our trips like camping and mountain biking such a joy. The Tesla would have been such a headache in comparison, I think.

At the time I was certain it would be the other way around, but charging networks weren’t sufficient in the places we travel yet. I’m glad that’s the way it went now.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The regular inspection for ICE vehicles is centered around oil changes, air filter change (engine, not cabin), valve checks and distribution chain/belt changes. Everything else, from brake pads (wear sensors entered the chat), tires (life varies a lot, from 10k km to over 40k km for cars), windshield wipers (no determined lifetime, change it when it breaks) to brake fluid (recommended to change every 3 years) are don…

Sure, but why wouldn't Tesla write some software for those items like other car brands do? Let the driver know it's time to replace the brake fluid, tell the driver the estimated wear (+ sensor warning) on the brake pads?

If I had to guess? Putting a service interval reminder would contradict the idea that EV's need absolutely no maintenance whatsoever.

That being said I vaguely recall hearing that Teslas had an annual service interval in the manual. Is that not the case?

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To what Ive seen online is that Teslas have problems, but they are different to ICE cars. One of the problems that I think will play a mayor role is bearings. In ICE engines these are lubricated by engine oil which is replaced on service intervals, but with E-Cars regular bearings are used within electrical motors. Gonna make a weird comparison here, but I see the same in Robot vacuums; the grease in the (plastic) gearboxes is flung to the outsides of the casing where it dries up over time, so even though they are using plastics that negate a lot of the friction issues you get in dry gearboxes, they start to wear out faster. I think we should really start to investigate how we can make these components servicable, even if that means we have to go back to oil as a lubricant. Whats the point in going electric if we have to start throwing them away just like we do with consumer electronics because they are not servicable?

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Tesla Model 3, owner here. The list of reasons why I will never buy a Tesla again is too long, but they pretty much all boil down to cheap parts and poor build quality. That goes for their software also, absolute junk.

I’m surprised that you find the software to be junk.. that’s supposed to be one of their strong points. I found the software on the Model S I borrowed for a trip a while back quite nice. But I guess the issues aren’t surface level?
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