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Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by jjice »

isodev wrote: post #24
vecplane wrote: post #6

YouTube is effectively a Google Podcasts platform already. Paying for YouTube Premium to avoid ads is some of the best money I spend each month. I wish I could do the same for Spotify podcast ads. I do pay for Spotify already to avoid ads in music, but I can't seem to avoid them for the Joe Rogan Experience.

I loved the idea of Youtube Premium at first, but I feel €15/month is exorbitant amount for what we're getting in return. Same for Facebook/Instagram which will have a similar cost starting from February.

> but I feel €15/month is exorbitant amount for what we're getting in return

I think it comes down to how often you use the platform. YouTube has been my primary media source for the last twelve years and ads are what paid for that. Now that I can pay $14 (USD) per month to give the people I watch a bit more, have no ads, downloads, and a few other nice little features, it was a no brainer for me. I have always gotten _way_ more mileage out of YouTube than HBO or Netflix.

But if you don't, then it's probably not worth it and having an advertisement will pay for it instead.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by slipperlobster »

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Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by jtbayly »

verdverm wrote: post #15
vecplane wrote: post #6

YouTube is effectively a Google Podcasts platform already. Paying for YouTube Premium to avoid ads is some of the best money I spend each month. I wish I could do the same for Spotify podcast ads. I do pay for Spotify already to avoid ads in music, but I can't seem to avoid them for the Joe Rogan Experience.

The ads in podcasts is why I left Spotify. Doesn't really seem like premium when the main content I want from them still has ads

I also left Spotify because of podcasts. I did not want to listen to podcasts, and they couldn't get that through their heads, shoving it down my throat, advertising it to me, even though I paid for an ad-free experience. Drove me crazy, so I left.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by verdverm »

paxys wrote: post #39

The entire podcasts industry seems to be on a downward spiral. I feel like the days are numbered for Spotify's podcast dreams as well, looking at how little they are promoting them now in app or outside. What on earth happened? It was the hottest new thing in media, and then...everyone just collectively lost interest? Was it just the Covid bubble, or something else?

Making premium users listen to ads on podcasts was the primary reason I stopped using Spotify

The podcasts I listen to are available on all the major platforms

I think what we might be seeing is that the walled garden approach to content is not working out. People don't want to have to subscribe to a ton of services just to get access to a few pieces of unique content. There was a recent Disney+ thing to this effect recently too

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by rickdeckard »

verdverm wrote: post #8

This is a product consolidation more than a discontinuation

Depends on whether YT Music is considered a place for products to continue living or a place for products to put to rest.

So far it seems to be where Google Media apps migrate their users to when they decide to retire a media service. ANY kind of media service...

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by crazygringo »

Cwizard wrote: post #16

Can anyone explain why? I see almost no downside in keeping it running? Infra costs must be minor, there is no licensing costs, it’s a simple app so I would assume very little developer cost. The upside is that Android can come with a ‘native’ podcast player. Just like iOS comes with a native player. A big downside with shutting it down is that it reinforces the idea that Google products are eventually killed so don’…

> I see almost no downside in keeping it running?

The way the Google monorepo works, there's actually more cost in keeping things running than you would think.

You have to keep up-to-date with all of the library and platform upgrades and occasional migrations that are happening internally that your product is built on.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by gentleman11 »

vecplane wrote: post #6

YouTube is effectively a Google Podcasts platform already. Paying for YouTube Premium to avoid ads is some of the best money I spend each month. I wish I could do the same for Spotify podcast ads. I do pay for Spotify already to avoid ads in music, but I can't seem to avoid them for the Joe Rogan Experience.

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Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by upon_drumhead »

paxys wrote: post #39

The entire podcasts industry seems to be on a downward spiral. I feel like the days are numbered for Spotify's podcast dreams as well, looking at how little they are promoting them now in app or outside. What on earth happened? It was the hottest new thing in media, and then...everyone just collectively lost interest? Was it just the Covid bubble, or something else?

Their moat didn’t pay off. Pulling podcasts behind their paywall didn’t convert to subscribers nearly enough for it to justify the price in acquiring the source material.

There are so many great podcasts that when gimlet shows went to Spotify, I missed them, but listened to other shows instead.

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