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I don't think this qualifies, as the definition is as follows: >prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. There is no discrimination on racial or ethnic lines going on. If Russia wouldn't have invaded the Ukraine they wouldn't…
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It's not racism to react against an absolutely illegal war + occupation of a sovereign country.
like the occupation of Palestine, but you know, double standards.
Yes, that's wrong too. But, you know, those happen but that doesn't mean this is right. It is possible to be both against the war in Ukraine, Guantanamo Bay, the way the Israeli state handles Palestine and be pro Jewish all at the same time.
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Maybe they should stop brutalizing their nearest neighbors with guns and their global neighbors with hacks as if this is normal behaviour idk Not on us that they've let their reputation slide so far
Following your logic: US and its NATO minions are brutalizing countries nowhere near them (Syria, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya - to name a few from the last 30 years), it had (still has?) prisons where Muslims were tortured and the world should have sanctioned it and its businesses and citizens with the harshest sanctions for that.
Tell me more about reputation slide.
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Is the two years referring to the start of the Ukraine war? Or did Hetzner announce their termination of Russian customers back in 2021?
Yes. Because it was quite clear that there would be consequences. I think the consensus at the time was that you should get moving if you might be affected, and I also think that the consensus was that by now the war would be over one way or the other. But that hasn't happened and authorities have been coming down ever harder on companies that are still doing business with Russia, Hetzner likely has made an internal…
My guess is that the US authorities appreciate the data they can gather from these sources.
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It's two years and 6 weeks (almost 7), not 1 month.
> It will take effect from 31 January 2024 that's under 6 (working) weeks from today. I'm trying to read where you got 2 years from, but I can't find it. Was there an additional warning from before? or are you suggesting that when the Russian military invaded Ukraine that every Russian business and citizen should have pulled out of using European services?
A ton of Western companies started pulling out of Russia in short order. It should have been obvious to anyone that even if their particular Western supplier continued to provide services for the time being that was at high risk of termination at any time--even absent a specific public statement. So, yes, the rational plan would have been to pull out of using European services or at least have a contingency plan to rapidly do so.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Because it was quite clear that there would be consequences. I think the consensus at the time was that you should get moving if you might be affected, and I also think that the consensus was that by now the war would be over one way or the other. But that hasn't happened and authorities have been coming down ever harder on companies that are still doing business with Russia, Hetzner likely has made an internal…
As far as I know most cloud services of US big tech is still functioning in Russia. Including YouTube, Gmail, advertising services etc. Facebook was blocked the Russian government not Facebook itself. My guess is that the US authorities appreciate the data they can gather from these sources.
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#49> We recommend that you take appropriate measures now. Change your postal address if it's (still) Russian? As per some Russian devs I know, this worked for the vast majority of service providers that issued similar statements in the past. As cynical as it sounds.
I imagine getting them to provide a proof of new address (which I think is what Hetzner requires from all customers) would be enough. On the other hand, if they just close the accounts for having lived in Russia at a certain point in the past, that would be quite shitty.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Because it was quite clear that there would be consequences. I think the consensus at the time was that you should get moving if you might be affected, and I also think that the consensus was that by now the war would be over one way or the other. But that hasn't happened and authorities have been coming down ever harder on companies that are still doing business with Russia, Hetzner likely has made an internal…
As far as I know most cloud services of US big tech is still functioning in Russia. Including YouTube, Gmail, advertising services etc. Facebook was blocked the Russian government not Facebook itself. My guess is that the US authorities appreciate the data they can gather from these sources.