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Child abduction case: Tom and Jerry cartoons helped police identify suspects

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Re: Child abduction case: Tom and Jerry cartoons helped police identify suspects

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Damn, they asked Google to turn over IP addresses visiting specific URLs, Google refused, then they collected the data “from the Internet gateway” anyway? So TLS is just broken in India, and the “Internet gateway”, whichever hop that refers to, sees everything in clear text?

YouTube search terms are query parameters in the url so wouldn’t need to break TLS

What are you talking about

Re: Child abduction case: Tom and Jerry cartoons helped police identify suspects

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Likely a governmental man-in-the-middle attack.

That means that either the government has a browser trusted root CA (which means they could spy on anyone in the world if they can MITM them), or they somehow force everyone in the country to install their trusted CAs.

Who says they can't, but weak encryption is definitely an easier lift.

Re: Child abduction case: Tom and Jerry cartoons helped police identify suspects

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Tom and Jerry is very popular in India. Parents like it because there's no (less) subversive NSFW content (e.g. Bikini Bottom in Spongebob). Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger.

It's sad that you feel like you have to preemptively defend yourself against criticism for implying children shouldn't be exposed to subversive or NSFW content.

I support a healthy dose of subversion for my young 'uns.

Animaniacs and Invader Zim at the top of the list.

Suggestions? SpongeBob is surprisingly subversive and anticapitalist to boot...

Re: Child abduction case: Tom and Jerry cartoons helped police identify suspects

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Not in India, but I've seen parents here sit down at a restaurant table and shove a cell phone in front of a toddler the second they sit down. They don't allow the kid to even get bored, try to do other stuff or interact with the kid. In my experience, a 1-2-3 year old kid doesn't have the "cellphone have cartoons, gimme!" unless they've been educated to expect that. Does that seem like a bad habit to impose on your…

> unless they've been educated to expect that. And this is critical. I've seen enough times when kid did expected to receive what they wanted and threw a tantrum if not.

And this is why my default response is no. Eat your damn veggies.

Re: Child abduction case: Tom and Jerry cartoons helped police identify suspects

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Tom and Jerry is very popular in India. Parents like it because there's no (less) subversive NSFW content (e.g. Bikini Bottom in Spongebob). Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger.

It's sad that you feel like you have to preemptively defend yourself against criticism for implying children shouldn't be exposed to subversive or NSFW content.

I would assume the apology was for classifying SpongeBob as subversive or NSFW, which they likely don’t agree with (and it seems like you probably should have to defend your view if you do as it’s a pretty fringe PoV)

Re: Child abduction case: Tom and Jerry cartoons helped police identify suspects

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India's encryption laws require service providers to allow law enforcement to intercept, monitor and trace encrypted traffic. Encryption within India is limited by law to weak forms. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/07/indias-draconian-rules...

Is this actually implemented? Do all browsers in india use weakened TLS or something?

There is no such implementation in India. The major censorship in internet here is SNI based HTTPS filtering.

Re: Child abduction case: Tom and Jerry cartoons helped police identify suspects

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The news story is bogus. Internet service providers can't see what webpage their clients are seeing because everything is HTTPS and there is no MITM from government here as one suggested in the comments. The only technical censorship in India is SNI based HTTPS website blocking and the HTTPS website blocks.

Re: Child abduction case: Tom and Jerry cartoons helped police identify suspects

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post #29

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Kids ate food before smartphones existed. They miss one meal, throw one meltdown, and quickly learn that it's better to eat than go hungry.

Not sure if one meltdown is the mean or even the median for how much time a kid takes to learn how to sit in one place without being distracted. In any case, it doesn’t matter a whit if the average is one meltdown if your kid has gone without two consecutive meals. All this theorising goes out the window when the third meal is coming up and you’re struggling to get a morsel inside your kid. How many consecutive meals…

What happened to kids who refused to eat 200 years ago? Did they just starve themselves to death? I'm open to information.

I've never used phones with my kids. They throw plenty of tantrums at meals. Sometimes they don't eat. They are alive and fine.

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