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Orion Browser by Kagi

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Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#41

Developing a complex product like a browser without telemetry will be hard. Especially if they are trying to commit to objectives like using minimal battery or memory. There are many many different websites so its hard to predict what your users are using the browser for.

Respecting user privacy begins with browser being zero telemetry. If it is not, it can not claim to be privacy-respecting.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#42
post #5

If I load reddit.com on the iOS Orion browser the page is completely unresponsive. Anyone else experience this? Not a great first impression sadly.

This is due to built in content blockers. You can disable them on reddit and it will load fine.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#43

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I'm glad someone is trying to doing something hard that will benefit people. We need more companies that want to do the hard thing, not the easy profitable thing.

Telemetry would allow them to make their product better for more people and know where to invest to benefit their users more. In this case proitability is proxy for how much value people get from the proxy. The thought that something is bad because it is profitable is misguided.

Is all telemetry good in your eyes?

Telemetry is a cheaper solution to hiring quality assurance. Many will feel sharing their usage details to increase profits is acceptance and others might feel this free product isn't so free anymore.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#44
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Yes it also supports Firefox extensions. Bypass Paywall Clean is a great one.

By what mechanism is it possible for this to be true when Firefox doesn't even support Firefox extensions?

Orion has a port of the web extensions API (used by Chrome and Firefox extensions) on top of WebKit.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#46
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Are there any plans for Windows and Android releases?

From the website:

> 1. Orion is currently available for Apple macOS, iPadOS and iOS. We are planning support for other platforms in the future.

Zilch on timelines though, so don't know how much of a priority it is for them?

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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By what mechanism is it possible for this to be true when Firefox doesn't even support Firefox extensions?

Orion has a port of the web extensions API (used by Chrome and Firefox extensions) on top of WebKit.

That's super interesting. I wonder why Mozilla didn't bother to do this for their own browser.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#49

I'd love to see a browser natively and deeply integrate a 3rd party password manager like bitwarden or 1password, instead of just supporting Keychain.

I 100% switched from 3rd party password managers to keychain and never looked back. It does everything natively, including 2-factor auth.
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