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People who voted for Brexit ‘more likely to be less intelligent’, study claims

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Re: People who voted for Brexit ‘more likely to be less intelligent’, study claims

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Post by nemoniac »

toto wrote: post #32
progne wrote: post #5

Imagine a democracy in which you vote your IQ from an official test. If your IQ was measured at 114 your vote counts 114 times, etc. This seems obviously unfair. But would it improve the results? My intuition fails me here, I can't predict. I wonder if that rule would have swung Brexit the other way? That would give an idea of the magnitude of the difference.

Several forms of "census suffrage" exist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Householder_Franchise (Check the other languages because they are more complete and better document the various forms).

On Wikipedia I frequently check other languges for comparison but I've never seen it recommended before.

Are there others who do it too?

Re: People who voted for Brexit ‘more likely to be less intelligent’, study claims

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Post by nemoniac »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #9
progne wrote: post #5

Imagine a democracy in which you vote your IQ from an official test. If your IQ was measured at 114 your vote counts 114 times, etc. This seems obviously unfair. But would it improve the results? My intuition fails me here, I can't predict. I wonder if that rule would have swung Brexit the other way? That would give an idea of the magnitude of the difference.

The people with high IQ may vote to further the interests of people with high IQ, effectively oppressing the people with low IQ.

Even with one-person-one-vote voting systems people often vote to further their own interests, sometimes to the detriment of minorities.

Re: People who voted for Brexit ‘more likely to be less intelligent’, study claims

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Post by votepaunchy »

woleium wrote: post #17
progne wrote: post #5

Imagine a democracy in which you vote your IQ from an official test. If your IQ was measured at 114 your vote counts 114 times, etc. This seems obviously unfair. But would it improve the results? My intuition fails me here, I can't predict. I wonder if that rule would have swung Brexit the other way? That would give an idea of the magnitude of the difference.

Brexit should have gone the other way anyway, a constitutional change like that should require a 70% majority. But the EU was coming after the tax safe havens like the british virgin islands and the rich do so like their money…

How large a majority was required to join the EU? The threshold to create a law or join a treaty should be at least as high as to revoke or leave.

Re: People who voted for Brexit ‘more likely to be less intelligent’, study claims

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Post by kcplate »

rhombocombus wrote: post #23
ipaddr wrote: post #21

Frame this north American style. The poorest voted for it because it was in their interests

They voted for it because they were propagandized into believing it was in their interests.

Ahh yes, the old “the poor are too stupid…” argument.

Re: People who voted for Brexit ‘more likely to be less intelligent’, study claims

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Post by theironhammer »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #40
rhombocombus wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They voted for it because they were propagandized into believing it was in their interests.

High immigration into the UK has been depressing wages at the lower end of the scale (edit: and perhaps not only but I'm thinking that people who earn a good living don't think too much about whether all those foreign professionals dampen salary increases) The "working class" voted to control immigration but were taken for a ride because those in charge actually want more immigration.

The Brexiteers were naive. Anyone with half a brain wouldve known the elites would switch immigration from EU to third world which is exactly what they did post Brexit.

Re: People who voted for Brexit ‘more likely to be less intelligent’, study claims

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Post by sottol »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #9
progne wrote: post #5

Imagine a democracy in which you vote your IQ from an official test. If your IQ was measured at 114 your vote counts 114 times, etc. This seems obviously unfair. But would it improve the results? My intuition fails me here, I can't predict. I wonder if that rule would have swung Brexit the other way? That would give an idea of the magnitude of the difference.

The people with high IQ may vote to further the interests of people with high IQ, effectively oppressing the people with low IQ.

Too lazy/tired to work it out in detail but afair IQ is normally distributed so I don't think this linear weighting would bring high IQ much if any advantage vs the average person when weighted by sample count (because there's so many more average people). But the low IQ population would be seriously at a disadvantage vs the average and high IQ populations.

Re: People who voted for Brexit ‘more likely to be less intelligent’, study claims

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Post by mcphage »

woleium wrote: post #17
progne wrote: post #5

Imagine a democracy in which you vote your IQ from an official test. If your IQ was measured at 114 your vote counts 114 times, etc. This seems obviously unfair. But would it improve the results? My intuition fails me here, I can't predict. I wonder if that rule would have swung Brexit the other way? That would give an idea of the magnitude of the difference.

Brexit should have gone the other way anyway, a constitutional change like that should require a 70% majority. But the EU was coming after the tax safe havens like the british virgin islands and the rich do so like their money…

Heck, even a simple majority would probably have fine if the vote wasn’t claimed to be non-binding. People vote differently when they are told their votes don’t matter.
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