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Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home
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Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only interpretation I can see is in support of Great Replacement.
Ooh, this is my first time seeing white nationalism ideology referenced on hacker news. (And to clarify, I do not remotely support the ideology... Just curious as to what types of people use this site)
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Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home
#43Given that the US doest not have an official language, this rings a weird bell. Had the been England or any other country with an official language, it would have been something. In particular with the history of California and the proximity to Mexico, the opposite (that more than 50% speaks english) should be the story.
California was almost empty when it was annexed into the US. Disease etc. Immigration from the rest of the English-speaking US completely dwarfed what was left. Almost 100% of Spanish-speaking Californians have come in the past 50-70 years. Basically none have historical roots to California.
I'd imagine in a 70 year timeline, easily 80% of the population has no historical roots to California!
Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home
#44Given that the US doest not have an official language, this rings a weird bell. Had the been England or any other country with an official language, it would have been something. In particular with the history of California and the proximity to Mexico, the opposite (that more than 50% speaks english) should be the story.
The UK does not have an official language.
De facto it does
De jure, Wales does
Cambridge Dictionary defines official language as:
> the language or one of the languages that is accepted by a country's government, is taught in schools, used in the courts of law, etc.
There is no debate whatsoever that English meets that criteria in the UK
Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home
#45Given that the US doest not have an official language, this rings a weird bell. Had the been England or any other country with an official language, it would have been something. In particular with the history of California and the proximity to Mexico, the opposite (that more than 50% speaks english) should be the story.
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Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home
#46I’d be curious to know what percentage of people in California speak no English at all.
I don't know but my wife used to play mahjong in SF Chinatown and almost no one spoke English, including some people who had been in the US for over 30 years. It was a bit surprising.
The next town over from me have a large Vietnamese community, the older generation frequently only speak Vietnamese, relying on their children and grandchildren to help them navigate in society, doctors appointments, interacting with the government and all those things. I'm continuously surprised that someone would refuse to learn the language of a country they lived in for almost 50 years... Like WHY?
Seems rather rude in some sense.
Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home
#47One of the things that makes America (and the American economy) so great and so large is the fact that the type of economic participants changes rapidly. When the types of participants change, the types of businesses change, leading to continuous change and innovation.
As an example, my state was majority Italians (including many bilingual families). Since the 2000, the demographics have been moving towards Spanish (of the latin American kind) and Portuguese (of the Portugal kind). This shows in the types of new restaurants, businesses and activities popping up.
Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only interpretation I can see is in support of Great Replacement.
Ooh, this is my first time seeing white nationalism ideology referenced on hacker news. (And to clarify, I do not remotely support the ideology... Just curious as to what types of people use this site)
This thread has the extremes on both sides, get ready for a lot more of it in the next year or two
Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home
#49I’d be curious to know what percentage of people in California speak no English at all.
I don't know but my wife used to play mahjong in SF Chinatown and almost no one spoke English, including some people who had been in the US for over 30 years. It was a bit surprising.
I knew families like this growing up. To me it’s less about how long they have been here vs if they are first or second+ generation immigrants. It has always seemed like the second generation onward picks up English.
* I’m obviously a small sample size dealing with a single immigrant population in one state, but that’s my experience.
Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually, it's the other way around. I don't think anyone has yet declared their motives to riot, but the perp has been identified as Algerian. It's also true that the rioters probably knew this.
> the perp has been identified as Algerian The BBC says otherwise: > It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national. > Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67514960
So he is an Algerian immigrant