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Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by mrastro »

jlmorton wrote: post #16
doublerabbit wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even better, can we all finally make a concerted effort and make a new browser better than Chrome and Firefox? We only let the net get jizzed on because we allow it to be. If Serenity can do it, imagine if all those who push repos to github collaborating together and actually making an open source project for all and everyone. Both browsers are old and have been abused.

It takes a special kind of hubris to think you're going to develop a browser better than Chrome and Firefox as an open source project. Both Chromium and Firefox are already open source projects. What is the magic sauce that's going to make this effort suddenly produce a perfect browser?

Agree. Plus OP may be severely underestimating the complexity and expense related to developing a new fully featured browser. JavaScript engine, CSS rendering engine, supports for dozens of additional add-ons like WebGL, sandboxing, WASM etc. Microsoft is a case study on this given their attempt and eventually ended up forking off Chromium.

Pouring more resources into existing projects seem more realistic.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by chias »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #17
pier25 wrote: post #5

I like using Chrome and even went back to it after trying FF and Brave 2-3 years ago. But this would really make me look for alternatives, even if those are inferior. It's not even about Youtube. I pay for Youtube Premium. But not being able to block third party cookies would be a deal breaker.

If even tech people (who could easily have multiple browsers around) prefer Chrome over Firefox for minor problems out of convenience, I don't see how Firefox is supposed to really notably gain any market share even if Google completely locks out ad blockers.

> If even tech people (who could easily have multiple browsers around) prefer Chrome over Firefox

very many of us don't.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by neilv »

pier25 wrote: post #5

I like using Chrome and even went back to it after trying FF and Brave 2-3 years ago. But this would really make me look for alternatives, even if those are inferior. It's not even about Youtube. I pay for Youtube Premium. But not being able to block third party cookies would be a deal breaker.

> But this would really make me look for alternatives,

A stronger response would be -- a year or more ago -- techies switching to Firefox as a symbolic movement.

And when we have more techies using Firefox, that means various kinds of network effects that end up improving its adoption.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #17
pier25 wrote: post #5

I like using Chrome and even went back to it after trying FF and Brave 2-3 years ago. But this would really make me look for alternatives, even if those are inferior. It's not even about Youtube. I pay for Youtube Premium. But not being able to block third party cookies would be a deal breaker.

If even tech people (who could easily have multiple browsers around) prefer Chrome over Firefox for minor problems out of convenience, I don't see how Firefox is supposed to really notably gain any market share even if Google completely locks out ad blockers.

Sometimes it’s not “out of convenience” but “we only have the resources to test on one browser and most people use chrome” - so we must cater to that even if chrome is far down the road to enshittification.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by stainablesteel »

in wake of the EU ruling that youtube isn't allowed to block adblockers, i can understand this move.

imo the eu needs to stay out of this. its a competition between people trying to block ads and trying to force you to see them, which i see nothing wrong with.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by rcMgD2BwE72F »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #3

Most of the Internet is almost unusable without ad blockers. I suspect this will be good for Firefox.

War makes life worst. People like a good life so they should fight for peace. I guess war is good for life.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by mrastro »

zlg_codes wrote: post #26

Watch the already limited traffic I send to Google servers go even lower. I am not entangled in their mess. None of the faangs can touch me because I wasn't stupid enough to put my entire digital life in the hands of a company. I'm looking ten or more years in the future, though. By that time, the Firefox/Chrome duopoly will be broken by alternatives that don't compromise between the user and business models.

"Firefox/Chrome duopoly"? You're forgetting Safari; they have larger market share than Firefox.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by blueridge »

I like Firefox a lot (with Privacy Badger and uBlock) but sometimes the browser slows to a crawl. New tabs are slow to open, takes way too long to select and activate a text input field, and so on. A restart fixes this, but it's still annoying.

I think I might go back to Safari. I like the way it looks and it feels snappier all the way around.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by shadowgovt »

stainablesteel wrote: post #45

in wake of the EU ruling that youtube isn't allowed to block adblockers, i can understand this move. imo the eu needs to stay out of this. its a competition between people trying to block ads and trying to force you to see them, which i see nothing wrong with.

I used to agree, but now that ads have become a prolific malware vector, the balance has changed and ad-blocking is a security issue.
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