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The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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This doesn’t work anymore with the latest version of Kindle DRM unfortunately. It has been changed substantially

That's why the Kobo Libra 2 is superior especially the sunken screen which is more paper like than any other e reader I tried including Kindles.

> sunken screen

What do you mean?

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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> have never paid for an ebook at all Not snarking, genuine question: how do you expect the authors to make a living creating and writing the content you enjoy reading if you don’t pay for it? Do you only read content that authors publish for free?

Much of what I read – on linguistics, art cinema, or art music – is published by academic presses. No matter how much a scholarly publication might interest the general public, those books are usually priced at a level where only university libraries, and occasionally hired faculty, are expected to actually buy them. The retail price of what I have read in the last month alone already goes into the thousands of euro.…

Sounds reasonable - and yes academic works are priced so far beyond consumer retail they’re not missing your revenue.

I get your point about libraries, and if you outright don’t have access in your location that’s valid - one thing I’d add though is that libraries do have constrained supply and limited loan periods (even for digital content) and also a smaller collection of books so it’s not a total free access service as you suggest (at least in the UK, I can’t speak to others) - but now I’m nit picking.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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Not the ideal solutions, but they work: Try https://libgen.rs/ or https://zlibrary.to/

I've written four books. Each book is the result of thousands of hours of experience and hundreds of hours of work. My books are all over these sites, and have been used to train AI. Without my consent.

I didn't write books to make money - I've made the national bestseller list and still get paid And for those who say "its the same as a library" - libraries buy books. And lend them on a limited basis. Sites like this are just simple theft.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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That's why the Kobo Libra 2 is superior especially the sunken screen which is more paper like than any other e reader I tried including Kindles.

> sunken screen What do you mean?

The flush screens of the Kindle have an extra layer to achieve the flushness which adds some reflectivity and makes the screen less paper like. The Libra 2 doesn't have a flush screen and appears much sharper and far more paper like in my eyes and many others.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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Much of what I read – on linguistics, art cinema, or art music – is published by academic presses. No matter how much a scholarly publication might interest the general public, those books are usually priced at a level where only university libraries, and occasionally hired faculty, are expected to actually buy them. The retail price of what I have read in the last month alone already goes into the thousands of euro.…

Sounds reasonable - and yes academic works are priced so far beyond consumer retail they’re not missing your revenue. I get your point about libraries, and if you outright don’t have access in your location that’s valid - one thing I’d add though is that libraries do have constrained supply and limited loan periods (even for digital content) and also a smaller collection of books so it’s not a total free access servi…

I tend to read fairly unpopular literary fiction, not hot bestsellers or whatever, so I am confident that if I were in the USA or UK and could request such books from a local library there, I wouldn’t have to wait long to receive it. “Smaller collection” isn’t actually true if the library has access to ILL. And again, a limited loan period hardly matters if this is going to be a one-off reading experience.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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> have never paid for an ebook at all Not snarking, genuine question: how do you expect the authors to make a living creating and writing the content you enjoy reading if you don’t pay for it? Do you only read content that authors publish for free?

Much of what I read – on linguistics, art cinema, or art music – is published by academic presses. No matter how much a scholarly publication might interest the general public, those books are usually priced at a level where only university libraries, and occasionally hired faculty, are expected to actually buy them. The retail price of what I have read in the last month alone already goes into the thousands of euro.…

Just a data point here but I am an aspiring author who negotiated with several university presses and ended up going with a small independent press instead and I strongly disagree on the audience you mentioned in your first paragraph. That may be the built in readership, but authors desperately want to reach larger audiences, even through academic presses, and often can exert little independent control over pricing. I would invert your assumption -- the authors that can afford to lose money from a shared copy are the ones published by the big five, many of whom received advances that their books won't pay back anyways, it's the authors published by academic presses and indie/nonprofit publishers that desperately need every dollar of revenue.

Trust me, I know books are expensive, they're probably my biggest line item after rent and food, but it really is meaningful for the publisher and author when you purchase a book.

edit: I also wanted to add that the publishing industry is decidedly low tech and a huge amount of assumptions about what gets chosen to be published is based on historical (mediocre, for a host of reasons) sales data via Bookscan, so when you don't purchase a book there also is is now one fewer piece of a demand signal that may lead another similar book to be greenlit.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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I’m probably an outlier in tech circles but I really like the kindle experience, it’s convenient, the store has all the books I could ever want to read, the price is reasonable and since I never reread books I really don’t mind that I don’t own them forever. I’ve probably bought 200 books from Amazon since I got my kindle back in 2010. If I had to go through the hassles of stripping drm and side loading the books I’d…

Pretty much the same, except I do re-read the odd book... and they're all still there. I've not had a Kindle book disappear. I used to use calibre, but at some point I realised I was just curating a massive library for no reason. Same with music files. The time spent looking after a collection was time that I could spend reading new books or listening to new music, or doing something else.

So yeah, all power to those who feel a need to own physical copies of everything, I no longer subscribe to that ideal. I'd rather a library model where we pay collectively.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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You don't get 'full rights' when you buy a regular book, car or house.

There's a distinct difference of buying DRM-free ebook and renting DRM ebook and thinking you can use it on any device that you own - and "owning" here is still a central thesis.

There is a difference but the difference isn't 'there is a trivial definition of buy' as the GP suggests.

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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I wonder if NFTs could be a solution to ensure interoperability and resale value of ebooks. No DRM neeeded, which are useless anyway since it's easy to download any book online, and it's all about the legal ownership title (the NFT) and possibly exclusive benefits for holding one (eg. access to author's community or events).

Check out https://book.io

Lost me at Web 3. Sorry for the snark but do books really need to be turned into decentralized assets? Is that really the optimal way to solve this problem for consumers/industry?

Re: The Bitter Reality of Ebooks and the Kindle Model

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Not the ideal solutions, but they work: Try https://libgen.rs/ or https://zlibrary.to/

I've written four books. Each book is the result of thousands of hours of experience and hundreds of hours of work. My books are all over these sites, and have been used to train AI. Without my consent. I didn't write books to make money - I've made the national bestseller list and still get paid And for those who say "its the same as a library" - libraries buy books. And lend them on a limited basis. Sites like this…

Can I ask what your books were about? Any tips for a first time author?
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