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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By joining Microsoft, they retain access to all the data, weights, and infrastructure they had at OpenAI. They don't have to start from scratch and ramp up. They can start up right where they left off.

Care to elaborate? Microsoft funding OpenAI doesn’t grant them right to just grab intellectual properties.

Microsoft's deal with OpenAI grants Microsoft access to OpenAI's technology --- at least until AGI arrives

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Listen. I was confused when the whole thing was going down. I was more confused when the whole "board wants to backtrack and maybe resign" thing was going down. I got even more confused when Emmett Shear was announced as the CEO. ...but never in a hundred years would I have imagined "haha just join Microsoft" as an actual alternative. I remain, confused.

I am confused why everyone is freaking out about some business person being let go from a tech shop.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

#43

Sam and Greg obviously haven’t heard that Microsoft Research doesn’t get any GPU access (:

Haven't worked at Microsoft, but usually, when folks up high have their balls at stake, resources and budgets magically start getting approved faster than the Concorde.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

#44
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By joining Microsoft, they retain access to all the data, weights, and infrastructure they had at OpenAI. They don't have to start from scratch and ramp up. They can start up right where they left off.

Care to elaborate? Microsoft funding OpenAI doesn’t grant them right to just grab intellectual properties.

Microsoft also doesn’t give many GPUs to internal researchers so this has a long way to run yet.

Wouldn’t surprise me if Sam and Greg are back on the startup path by week end.

This just seems like PR to give MS a way to paper things over after such an abrupt firing.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Listen. I was confused when the whole thing was going down. I was more confused when the whole "board wants to backtrack and maybe resign" thing was going down. I got even more confused when Emmett Shear was announced as the CEO. ...but never in a hundred years would I have imagined "haha just join Microsoft" as an actual alternative. I remain, confused.

By joining Microsoft, they retain access to all the data, weights, and infrastructure they had at OpenAI. They don't have to start from scratch and ramp up. They can start up right where they left off.

Does the Microsoft deal let Microsoft continue training from e.g. the GPT-4 weights?

I guess at least it gives them access to the OpenAI models to use internally, which they kinda need as their ways of working (Greg especially) will be highly dependent on having them now.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

#47
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By joining Microsoft, they retain access to all the data, weights, and infrastructure they had at OpenAI. They don't have to start from scratch and ramp up. They can start up right where they left off.

Care to elaborate? Microsoft funding OpenAI doesn’t grant them right to just grab intellectual properties.

Weights are not intellectual property.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

#48
I suspected this. OpenAI was always going towards Microsoft and Sam was leading that charge. Who else but them to bankroll his next vision.

Great pickup by MSFT. The exodus is only beginning and MSFT will not have to buy OpenAI for the billions in valuation it was getting. East win.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

#49
This might turn out to be a lot more stable structure long term: the commercialization of AI under Microsoft's brand, with Microsoft's resources, and the deep research into advanced AI under OpenAI. This could shield the research division of OpenAI from undue pressure from the product side, in a way that it probably couldn't when everything was under one roof.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

#50
Incredible how much has changed in one weekend… or not?

Confused what this really means. So Microsoft still has access to OpenAI’s pre-AGI tech that Sam and Greg can leverage for their more product-focused visions.

More than that, it looks like Microsoft has become a major AI player (internal research) overnight up with the likes of Meta, Google, and OpenAI. Incredible.

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