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Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Am I wrong that a script is copyrighted and thus charging for it, something they have no right to distribute, opens them to all sorts of potential legal action? It’s a lot easier to look the other way when it’s free. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/fan-made-subtitl... (2017)

Yes you are wrong because a movie script and movie subs are not the same thing at all

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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I predicted this moment when they switched to opensubtitles.com domain. Realistically though, their importance has diminished noticeably with tools like Whisper.

If you mean OpenAI's Whisper, has anyone created an actual product that people can use with downloaded videos?

Well. I don't know, but in my experience it shouldn't be too hard. The most difficult part would be timestamps I guess.

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like some open source projects moving to a "source available" or "fair code" licenses, it is going to be bumpy finding equilibrium as to what is reasonable. Tragedy of the commons for sure. There are costs to cover, and usage profiles can vary wildly.

And when they do that people just fork and go along with their own. Tofu being a great example, opensearch somewhat less.

By “people” you mean organizations with budgets and stakeholders.

Very few people, even few programmers, would be able to take on maintaining complicated software like tofu alone, for example.

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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I predicted this moment when they switched to opensubtitles.com domain. Realistically though, their importance has diminished noticeably with tools like Whisper.

If you mean OpenAI's Whisper, has anyone created an actual product that people can use with downloaded videos?

whisper.cpp runs locally and can output .srt, I’ve been using it a lot (takes a while though)

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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post #31

Am I wrong that a script is copyrighted and thus charging for it, something they have no right to distribute, opens them to all sorts of potential legal action? It’s a lot easier to look the other way when it’s free. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/fan-made-subtitl... (2017)

Yes you are wrong because a movie script and movie subs are not the same thing at all

In what way? The subs are the script (often translated) + timestamps. It’s the definition of a derivative work.

The subs wouldn’t exist without the original work.

Edit: Yes, it’s a subset of the script and not thee script itself, and being a pedant about that isn’t a useful point. It’s just pedantic.

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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I predicted this moment when they switched to opensubtitles.com domain. Realistically though, their importance has diminished noticeably with tools like Whisper.

If you mean OpenAI's Whisper, has anyone created an actual product that people can use with downloaded videos?

Bazaar supports using Whisper as a provider. I don't know how well it works.

https://wiki.bazarr.media/Additional-Configuration/Whisper-P...

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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> Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP's per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user. > If you wish to offer subtitles without prompting for an opensubtitles account, please contact us and tell us about your project... For an ea…

This is why I love technologies like BitTorrent and IPFS, where it's not a single server bearing the brunt and costs of being popular, everyone is contributing. The more popular it is, the more performant it is.
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