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HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Post by mqus »

gregwebs wrote: post #29

I have always been a fan of the trackpoint. The Ultimate Hacking Keyboard is a split keyboard with trackpoint, trackball, and touchpad modules (choose one). https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/shop I am excited for the upcoming release of the dygma raise 2 because it has integrated 60 degree tenting in addition to being split. It has a module system as well which will hopefully offer trackpoint. https://dygma.com/pag…

Looked at the UHK Trackpoint module just now and I can't imagine buying this. It can't be used with index finger+thumb (without moving your hand) and does not have a third mouse button which is crucial for jumping between scrolling and moving the mouse.

They also can't easily fix the first issue, because they expect their modules to be attached at certain places and the trackpoint should be way up there.

Maybe I'm just prejudiced from my thinkpad keyboards. Haven't used an ergonomic or split keyboard yet, no clue if this would make a difference on how to use a trackpoint.

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

I like that it's non-Topre. They claim the switches are hot-swappable, but what with?

Only black-on-black keycaps are very lame, though. They don't offer any other ones, and you cannot just buy any other ones, gotta accommodate that TrackPoint.

Also US-only, meh.

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Post by Fluorescence »

petepete wrote: post #8
threatofrain wrote: post #5

It really surprises me that the Happy Hacking Keyboard brand has stuck with their key layout. For a more conventional layout one might consider keychron. https://www.keychron.com/

Why would anyone need a capslock?

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WRONG ON THE INTERNET

First time I have ever used caps-lock for it's intended purpose. It's surprisingly liberating. I RECOMMEND GIVING IT A GO, IT'S LIKE THERAPY. Maybe we should go in the opposite direction and add even more dedicated keys for all forms of cringe-mode typing - leetspeak, texting, emoji-poisoned, valley-girl, German etc.

GPT powered politeness toggle maybe?

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

#44

Post by another_bear »

petepete wrote: post #8
threatofrain wrote: post #5

It really surprises me that the Happy Hacking Keyboard brand has stuck with their key layout. For a more conventional layout one might consider keychron. https://www.keychron.com/

Why would anyone need a capslock?

I write a lot of ${BASH}

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Post by globular-toast »

TheRoque wrote: post #6

Sorry for being such a newbie, but I never understood why HHKB was popular, and where it got its fame. I saw my roomate already having it 10 years ago, I find cool the minimalist aspect, but why such keyboard with basic design made it so far ? Also, on a personal note, having a 65% keyboard now for 3 years, I'll go back to a 75% keyboard. I think functions keys and arrows are used way too frequently to spend your tim…

I find it really funny how people refer to pressing two keys at the same time as "shortcuts". I never understood that. "Ctrl-C" isn't a "shortcut for copy" any more than pressing "C" is a "shortcut for typing the letter C".

I guess what you don't like is (excessive) key combos or "chords".

I've been using a 65% keyboard for a few years now and I don't miss the function keys one bit, but I do occasionally miss the arrow keys. A lot of UIs are built with the assumption that the arrow keys actually exist and aren't just "arrow commands" that might be bound to other key combos. It's just awkward then if they want you to press "Shift-Left", for example, which is I guess what you call "shortcuts in shortcuts".

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Post by gregwebs »

wodenokoto wrote: post #31

OT: What’s a great keyboard for people who don’t like mechanical keyboards? I took the plunge when I switched to a job where we worked on windows instead of macOS and got a keyChron as my daily driver instead of a Magic Keyboard. I had good memories of clicking away on an old IBM as a kid in the 90s so I thought I’d enjoy a “real” keyboard. I don’t dislike my low profile keyChron. But even after a year and a half it…

Not sure which keycron keyboard you got, and how low pro low profile it actually is. The NuPhy Air v2 gives me the low profile feel that I like. Tented split keyboards for me also help avoid the issue of a keyboard raising from front to back although certainly the feel is still not low profile.

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Post by TheRoque »

globular-toast wrote: post #45
TheRoque wrote: post #6

Sorry for being such a newbie, but I never understood why HHKB was popular, and where it got its fame. I saw my roomate already having it 10 years ago, I find cool the minimalist aspect, but why such keyboard with basic design made it so far ? Also, on a personal note, having a 65% keyboard now for 3 years, I'll go back to a 75% keyboard. I think functions keys and arrows are used way too frequently to spend your tim…

I find it really funny how people refer to pressing two keys at the same time as "shortcuts". I never understood that. "Ctrl-C" isn't a "shortcut for copy" any more than pressing "C" is a "shortcut for typing the letter C". I guess what you don't like is (excessive) key combos or "chords". I've been using a 65% keyboard for a few years now and I don't miss the function keys one bit, but I do occasionally miss the arr…

It's a shortcut because it's an alternative (and faster) way to access a functionality. There's no other way to get the letter C than to press the C key on your keyboard, therefore it's not a shortcut. Saying that using the function key to access the arrow key is indeed not a shortcut, chord or combo would be more appropriate, but your "Ctrl + C" example was a bad one to take.

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Post by eurekin »

threatofrain wrote: post #5

It really surprises me that the Happy Hacking Keyboard brand has stuck with their key layout. For a more conventional layout one might consider keychron. https://www.keychron.com/

For a split version, there's https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q11-qmk-custom-me...

Now, if only there was a track-pad or -ball

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Post by kamray23 »

eviks wrote: post #40
ivanjermakov wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I think QMK's mouse support[1] is sufficient for those who need it. But personally I use mouse _really_ rarely because of my keyboard centric workflow (DWM, Neovim & Vimium). [1]: https://docs.qmk.fm/#/feature_mouse_keys

Track point offers the unbeatable awesomeness of "analogue" reaction - the harder you push, the faster the mouse goes. - 360 (or whatever the effective number of directions you can push with a finger) is also much richer than 4 You can't replicate it with binary down/up buttons, so QMK-like support isn't a good replacement. (at least for the first one you could have a newer generation of keyboards that have "analogue…

you could technically slam a trackball onto an ergo split keyboard. wouldn't recommend it but you could. people tend to put one between their keyboards so why not just build it into the right one?

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Post by lozf »

Fluorescence wrote: post #43
petepete wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would anyone need a capslock?

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WRONG ON THE INTERNET First time I have ever used caps-lock for it's intended purpose. It's surprisingly liberating. I RECOMMEND GIVING IT A GO, IT'S LIKE THERAPY. Maybe we should go in the opposite direction and add even more dedicated keys for all forms of cringe-mode typing - leetspeak, texting, emoji-poisoned, valley-girl, German etc. GPT powered politeness toggle maybe?

I remap 'both shift keys' to toggle CAPSLOCK.
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