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Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by all2 »

jeffparsons wrote: post #21
jwells89 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That combination of decent performance (even while unplugged), battery life, and silence is hard to come by in x86 laptops, even in ultraportables built with efficiency-focused laptop CPUs where one would expect at least battery life and fan noise to not be issues. Apple’s silicon helps here but I wonder if part of the problem isn’t x86 laptop manufacturers trying too hard to juice perf numbers at the cost of all els…

Ever opened up the average laptop? They look like someone threw the list of component dimensions at a bin packing algorithm, let it run for a couple of minutes, then added some extra plastic struts to fill the dead space. It feels like nobody* else is even _trying_. (*Except Framework. Those guys are awesome.)

That makes it sound like there's a lot of end on the premium end of the market.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by lhl »

fyrn_ wrote: post #37
Epa095 wrote: post #26

Not bad. But I wonder why they went for 7840HS, instead of the lower TDP 7840u. Spec wise this one is quite close to lenovo t14s/p14s gen 4, which can also be configured with a similar screen (there is also the yoga slim 7 gen 8, but it has a glossy screen).

This config is GPU-less so it has the thermal / power budget to handle it. It's kind of meant as developer machine. As far as I can tell the trend was first started by the Mechrevo code 01. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-4000-mechrevo-la... Which actually got a decent amount of press have some initial Twitter hype. Several other Clevo based brands followed like Tuxedo and XMG. Not sure that Clevo actuall…

The Mechrevo Code 01 was a Tong Fang ODM chassis. XMG/Tuxedo (sister companies) have varying laptop models from both Tong Fang (Uniwill now?) and Clevo.

Historically, a lot of devs using Linux laptops have preferred iGPU models both to maximize useful perf/watt (dGPUs models tended to drain power much faster even when idle) and b/c most dGPU laptops are Nvidia-based and the driver issues used to be terrible. I wonder if that calculus will be changing now w/ local LLM code-helpers and other AI apps benefit greatly from stronger GPUs.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by tormeh »

d--b wrote: post #32
boudin wrote: post #29

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Why do you say that? You can run whatever distribution you want, i run arch on a tuxedo laptop with no issue. Tuxedo laptops are not perfect but i find them a good choice for running Linux, whatever distribution you prefer.

What's not perfect about Tuxedo laptops? It's the first time I hear about these, and it seems they have a great spec/price ratio. This is definitely a brand I'd consider buying.

Microphone on mine was pretty bad, without exaggerating. The procedure for updating the BIOS was the worst I’ve ever seen. Maybe if you run TuxedoOS it can be done in a better way. I once left it at full charge on the shelf for a month (possibly two) and the battery inflated. Admittedly not a smart move by me, but still. Support is excellent, though, and I got a free replacement battery. If you can get a Dell with Linux I’d say that was a smoother experience for sure. That said, I don’t want to be all negative: It’s nice to buy a laptop and 100% know that all the hardware works with Linux. That’s worth a lot to me.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by _0ffh »

boudin wrote: post #35
d--b wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's not perfect about Tuxedo laptops? It's the first time I hear about these, and it seems they have a great spec/price ratio. This is definitely a brand I'd consider buying.

On mine (an aura 15 gen 2) the webcam and speakers are really not great. I don't mind as I knew that before buying it, so no disappointment. On the plus side they really do support Linux, they provide a kernel module and control center app to control things like keyboard leds and power profiles, which does a good job. I find this quite good for a small company like Tuxedo. I'm happy with my laptop and will consider T…

Agreed, I've got an Aura 15 as well a few years ago, and I consider it a good buy price/performance wise.

I had originally ordered a different, slightly more expensive model, and had no trouble at all with customer service to send it back in exchange for the Aura and a refund, which impressed me very positively.

I run Debian on the laptop and had no trouble with it.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by prmoustache »

dajonker wrote: post #27
lhl wrote: post #19

Pretty decent specs if you're OK w/ 32GB of (fast) soldered memory and don't need an ANSI keyboard (there is an EN-US ISO option). It's interesting to compare to the their Intel Infinity Book Pro Gen8 offering - that has a DDR5 SODIMMs, 99Wh battery, and is actually slightly lighter than the Pulse (also a brighter 400nit vs 300nit display), although you give up 1 M.2 SSD slot, it's 40% more expensive, and even with t…

No ANSI keyboard might be a deal breaker for my muscle memory and external keyboards (mechanical and MX keys that I had to import from the US because Logitech only sells ISO in the EU)

Why do you need a "specific keyboard" if your muscle memory is there? Just map it to whatever works for you.

I am typing all the time in us alt international on various physical keyboards that have printed buttons in spanish qwerty, swiss french qwertz and plain ansi us keyboards. It is only a problem for those that have very little experience/use of the keyboard.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by fsflover »

jeffparsons wrote: post #21
jwells89 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That combination of decent performance (even while unplugged), battery life, and silence is hard to come by in x86 laptops, even in ultraportables built with efficiency-focused laptop CPUs where one would expect at least battery life and fan noise to not be issues. Apple’s silicon helps here but I wonder if part of the problem isn’t x86 laptop manufacturers trying too hard to juice perf numbers at the cost of all els…

Ever opened up the average laptop? They look like someone threw the list of component dimensions at a bin packing algorithm, let it run for a couple of minutes, then added some extra plastic struts to fill the dead space. It feels like nobody* else is even _trying_. (*Except Framework. Those guys are awesome.)

Apart from Framework, Purism also care about users opening up their laptops: https://docs.puri.sm/Librem_14/Maintenance/Disassembly.html

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by littlecranky67 »

prmoustache wrote: post #46
dajonker wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No ANSI keyboard might be a deal breaker for my muscle memory and external keyboards (mechanical and MX keys that I had to import from the US because Logitech only sells ISO in the EU)

Why do you need a "specific keyboard" if your muscle memory is there? Just map it to whatever works for you. I am typing all the time in us alt international on various physical keyboards that have printed buttons in spanish qwerty, swiss french qwertz and plain ansi us keyboards. It is only a problem for those that have very little experience/use of the keyboard.

Exactly. They even offer a "complete black keyboard" with no letterprints at all - definitely aimed at power users.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by boudin »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #14

> With the TUXEDO Control Center you are able to control the performance and the behavior of the fans by yourself. I remember seeing this project years ago when I tried to reverse engineer my own laptop's fan control functions. https://github.com/tuxedocomputers/tuxedo-control-center I actually tried to make it work on my laptop back then. Didn't succeed unfortunately. I'd really enjoy reading about how they figured…

I can't really confirm if it's the place to look at, but the tuxedo control center works in pair with their kernel module https://github.com/tuxedocomputers/tuxedo-keyboard

As the name wrongly imply, it is not just about controlling the keyboard. At least on my laptop (an aura15 gen 2), a whole chunk of the control center is not available when the module is not loaded. Not sure if it will help but you might want to look into this module as well for your investigation.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by boudin »

tormeh wrote: post #43
d--b wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's not perfect about Tuxedo laptops? It's the first time I hear about these, and it seems they have a great spec/price ratio. This is definitely a brand I'd consider buying.

Microphone on mine was pretty bad, without exaggerating. The procedure for updating the BIOS was the worst I’ve ever seen. Maybe if you run TuxedoOS it can be done in a better way. I once left it at full charge on the shelf for a month (possibly two) and the battery inflated. Admittedly not a smart move by me, but still. Support is excellent, though, and I got a free replacement battery. If you can get a Dell with Li…

I would love Tuxedo to release firmware updates via fwupdmgr. The current procedure works but is quite cumbersome indeed (copying file on a usb stick, boot on it and run a couple of command from it)
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