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Lost "Doctor Who" episodes found but owner is reluctant to hand them to BBC

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Because someone else might want to remember

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> who is going to watch all of this older content?

Historians, archivists, and everyone who is interested in having access to the past.

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Sadly this article is misleading - John Franklin has issued a statement saying that he was misquoted [1] and there is actually an amnesty when handing over missing episodes.

[1] https://twitter.com/drwhopodcasters/status/17233881608669433...

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The current state of affairs is a real shame.

The guys behind the Curiosity Show bought all the episodes and are uploading them to youtube. Great science show for kids. I've never seen a better kids science show.

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> which is funny, as who is going to watch all of this older content? younger generations do not watch older content.

That's pretty obviously false. People watch old episodes of, to name two easy examples, Johnny Carson or the Letterman Show. Whether that's to see a comedian (eg Rodney Dangerfield) or a band perform on Letterman, and so on. People love to watch old episodes of SNL, and we know that by the enormous view counts. They love to watch old music videos from before their time.

People were funny in the past, too. Bands were great in the past, too.

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Preservers of cultural memory should be rewarded. Canada spent years digitizing classic TV and published the shows on a Youtube channel, then suddenly deleted all the content without notice to archivers, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35716982 . In the absence of social contracts for preservation, we are left with defensive archiving.

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There have been a lot of attempts to extort money out of the BBC by people falsely claiming that they have lost episodes over the years, they may simply not believe these claims are as credible as the article suggests.

That doesn't make any sense. OP is about reports that BBC refuses to make any legal promises and talk only vaguely about cooperating with owners, when it would be so easy for them to simply publicly promise to not prosecute material stole before, say, 1990. Obviously, granting 'an amnesty for stolen episodes' is even easier for fake episodes which were never stolen in the first place... The credibility of the claims…

The BBC does not have any discretion over who is prosecuted for a crime though. They can give their opinion but it's up to the police. So a public promise doesn't actually hold any weight.

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There are probably some people (other than historians) into that stuff.

For a parallel example, the earliest records of anime stretch back to winter 1917 (!), though no-one has recordings of those any more:

https://anidb.net/anime/season/1917/winter/?do=calendar&h=1

Some of the slightly newer anime (summer 1917!) used to be on YouTube but the account seems to have been deleted. Unsure if by YouTube or by the account holder:

* https://anidb.net/anime/5862

* https://anidb.net/forum/thread/10412#c461218

* https://youtu.be/AnxMNq2QbvA

This account on YouTube seems to have a bunch of anime from around that period, along with some modern stuff too:

https://www.youtube.com/@ccm1112/videos

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That doesn't make any sense. OP is about reports that BBC refuses to make any legal promises and talk only vaguely about cooperating with owners, when it would be so easy for them to simply publicly promise to not prosecute material stole before, say, 1990. Obviously, granting 'an amnesty for stolen episodes' is even easier for fake episodes which were never stolen in the first place... The credibility of the claims…

The BBC does not have any discretion over who is prosecuted for a crime though. They can give their opinion but it's up to the police. So a public promise doesn't actually hold any weight.

Someone would have to tell the police about it though.

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Why is the BBC being weird about it?

Because some individual will have to sign their name on the amnesty.

And no individual in a bureaucracy (British term: jobsworth) is going to stick their neck out without a really solid incentive.

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That doesn't make any sense. OP is about reports that BBC refuses to make any legal promises and talk only vaguely about cooperating with owners, when it would be so easy for them to simply publicly promise to not prosecute material stole before, say, 1990. Obviously, granting 'an amnesty for stolen episodes' is even easier for fake episodes which were never stolen in the first place... The credibility of the claims…

The BBC does not have any discretion over who is prosecuted for a crime though. They can give their opinion but it's up to the police. So a public promise doesn't actually hold any weight.

They don’t? In the United States you can’t be arrested and charged with theft without the owner claiming you actually stole something.

Is that not the case in the UK? Can you be charged because the DA read about a hypothetical crime in the bews?

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