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After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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The trick is to never give your TV access to the internet and to pair it with an Apple TV. If you buy a TV and it won't even boot or work without an internet connection - return it and get a different one.

Apple TVs in the default configuration show large video ads for Apple stuff in the hero unit on the homescreen, same as Amazon is being accused of doing in TFA.

One of my favorite parts of AppleTV is that it has those beautiful screensavers.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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The trick is to never give your TV access to the internet and to pair it with an Apple TV. If you buy a TV and it won't even boot or work without an internet connection - return it and get a different one.

Yup. People always complain that the AppleTV is too expensive vs the competition, but stuff like this is exactly why.

I’ve had Roku, FireTV, and Chromecast, and I have had hdcp and/or performance issues with everything but Apple TV.

I hate that I’ve turned into something of an fanboy but Apple TV follows the same old story from Apple: expensive but it consistently just works.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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The trick is to never give your TV access to the internet and to pair it with an Apple TV. If you buy a TV and it won't even boot or work without an internet connection - return it and get a different one.

Do Apple TVs not display ads? I have Google TV devices, in part because I can install what er I want on them, including 3rd part launchers that don't have ads.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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Amazon's FireTV experience is pretty bad. Even as someone who pays for Prime, it's hard to escape the "ad carousel" interface when you just want to watch TV. That being said , I still use mine regularly for one reason; sideloading. You can install YouTube clients with SponsorBlock and ad-skipping built in. You can download Steam's streaming client and connect a controller, or load up Kodi with SFTP streaming from you…

Which YouTube client do you use if I may ask?

This is the one I'd prefer, if hypothetically I did such a thing :) https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you can still stream stuff - just use something else and just leverage it as a cheap display. Unless it won't work if not connected to the internet (wouldn't put it past them). I bought my Xbox mainly because it was the best/cheapest option for a 4K bluray player. I think I've loaded a game on it a handful of times at best, but watched lots of movies and other content with it. Thanks gamers for subsidizing a great BR…

The FireTV is not an actual television set. It's the "something else" that you use to stream content to a screen with no internet connection.

No, in this case it is actually a full size TV that has the same OS as the FireTV stick.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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post #22

The trick is to never give your TV access to the internet and to pair it with an Apple TV. If you buy a TV and it won't even boot or work without an internet connection - return it and get a different one.

Apple TVs in the default configuration show large video ads for Apple stuff in the hero unit on the homescreen, same as Amazon is being accused of doing in TFA.

Not to mention, they just launder their selling of your data through Google.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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post #22

The trick is to never give your TV access to the internet and to pair it with an Apple TV. If you buy a TV and it won't even boot or work without an internet connection - return it and get a different one.

Apple TVs in the default configuration show large video ads for Apple stuff in the hero unit on the homescreen, same as Amazon is being accused of doing in TFA.

Fair criticism but to clarify: The default is that if you press home on the controller, it loads up the AppleTV app, where it will show ads for AppleTV content. Pressing home again goes to the actual home, where you select the app you want to watch (YouTube, Netflix, etc.). There are no ads there.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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I may be in the minority here but I bought an LG TV in 2020 and the built in webOS interface and streaming apps have been great. I think there might be some ads but I'm honestly not 100% sure as they are very unintrusive. We had a Roku from our previous set up I had planned to use after hearing terrible things about the typical smart TV software, but have since gotten rid of it.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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But can you use the TV as a dumb monitor and just supply HDMI input from some other device? I.e. the input stays selected across powerdowns, and no GUI/ads come up?

Other "Fire" devices are a great deal. I have 2021-ish Fire HD8 and HD10 tablets, that merely needed a de-amazonification script from xda-developers to turn into "almost completely normal" vanilla Android tablets, Play Store and all, and have been very satisfactory as such.

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