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Re: AI App Graveyard

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Post by BigJono »

websap wrote: post #8

This is sad. As technologists we should celebrate folks who tried to build new services and applications. It would be good to document these and explain why they didn't work.

How many of these startups are building new models, datasets and algorithms? Or are they all just prefixing a few lines to a prompt before passing it on to a 3rd party API?

If these companies actually had something worth celebrating, would they really be out of the game this early? Most dead AI companies right now are muppets that built the quickest, shittiest thing they could to try and be the first in the door in a hype cycle.

Re: AI App Graveyard

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Post by raverbashing »

SomethingNew2 wrote: post #26
babl-yc wrote: post #11

There are a ton of companies that are basically a wrapper around GPT-4 with some minimal amount of application code. These folks can create impressive demos that wow minimally informed investors, but the reality is that if it took a few weeks to make there's no defensibility. I see the profits in the current AI hype cycle going to the leading foundational model company (why pay for the 2nd best?) and the companies th…

That’s a compelling story. But that doesn’t make it accurate. We are early on and it’s hard to determine how large or small the ecosystem and value that will be created on top. Some went big, like personal computers, the internet, databases, Java, electricity, and so on. Others did not (yet), web3 (maybe), other databases, low code platform, website builders, workstations, many old personal computing systems, etc. Ye…

Except PCs, Internet, etc were new things or in case of Java, improvements

These "AI Startups" were just 2 lines of code wrapping a call to OpenAI (or 10 lines if js with langchain - which already makes it easier for devs to use features like "string templates" or such /s)

> if that was always the case open ai wouldn’t exist

Because there were no incumbents offering a ChatGPT similar product

Re: AI App Graveyard

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Post by gfodor »

babl-yc wrote: post #11

There are a ton of companies that are basically a wrapper around GPT-4 with some minimal amount of application code. These folks can create impressive demos that wow minimally informed investors, but the reality is that if it took a few weeks to make there's no defensibility. I see the profits in the current AI hype cycle going to the leading foundational model company (why pay for the 2nd best?) and the companies th…

This is a prediction that there will be zero surprises. An obvious prediction to make, but probably wrong.

Re: AI App Graveyard

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Post by smokel »

j45 wrote: post #31
travisgriggs wrote: post #15

Site appears to be toast. Belongs in the ought to exist site titled "Hackernews Hug of Death Scrapyard".

Man, cloudflare is like a few minutes. Maybe their domain registrar features need to be better known.

No, it is not. For a hobbyist it is overkill, for a professional it might require filling out some TPS reports.

Re: AI App Graveyard

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Post by mrtksn »

I don’t know about that, since when it’s needed to be the hard-core tech supplier to succeed with customers?

The ones that will die will die regardless if openAI introduce the feature.

Just because OpenAI provided a method to do something doesn’t mean that they provided the best user experience.

IMHO there would be another land grab where the customers wouldn’t care if something is run by OpenAI and if they could have done the same through the ChatGPT.

Those who actually created a product that customers are willing to pay might actually end up just switching LLM suppliers.

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