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Re: New models and developer products

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post #26

The 128k context window GPT-4 Turbo model looks unreal. Seems like Anthropic's day of reckoning is here?

Anthropic never even had a day. I said this before in another Anthropic thread but I signed up 6 months ago for API access and they never responded. An employee in that thread apologized and said to try again, did it, week later still nothing. As far as commercial viability, they never had it.

same here. I wonder why they are not opening it up to more devs. Seems strange.

Re: New models and developer products

#43
Related ongoing threads:

GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38166431

OpenAI releases Whisper v3, new generation open source ASR model - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38166965

OpenAI DevDay, Opening Keynote Livestream [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38165090

Re: New models and developer products

#45
post #27

The Assistants API and OpenAI Store are really interesting. Those are the types of things that could build a moat for OpenAI

You think it is hard to export an agent? It's a master prompt, a collection of documents and a few generic plugins like function calling and code execution. This will be implemented in open source soon. You can even fine-tune on your bot logs.

Agreed, the moat are the models (as an extension of the instruction tuning data)

Re: New models and developer products

#47
post #7

That map/travel demo was insane. Trying to find the demo again.

It was but most of that functionality was within the "function calling", not really within the assistant as a top 10 of Paris sights isn't really that crazy. Plotting these on a map is the key part which is still your own code, not GPT-based.

Turning an airline receipt pdf into a well structured function call is very nice.

Re: New models and developer products

#48

Does anyone have an idea why they are so open about Whisper? Is it the poster child project for OAI people scratching their open source itch? Is there just no commercial value in speech to text?

I've been wondering this as well. I'm super glad, but it seems so different than every other thing they do. There's definitely commercial value, so I find it surprising.

Re: New models and developer products

#49

Most of the products announced (and the price cuts) appear to be more about increasing lock-in to the OpenAI API platform, which is not surprising given increased competition in the space. The GPTs/GPT Agents and Assistants demos in particular showed that they are a black box within a black box within a black box that you can't port anywhere else. I'm mixed on the presentation and will need to read the fine print on…

Also, DALL·E 3 "HD" is double the price at $0.08. I'm curious to play around with it once the API changes go live later today.

The docs say:

> By default, images are generated at standard quality, but when using DALL·E 3 you can set quality: "hd" for enhanced detail. Square, standard quality images are the fastest to generate.

https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/images/usage

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