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Scientists Are Researching a Device That Can Induce Lucid Dreams on Demand

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When I was a kid, I would dream that my friends were visiting, so I would get out of bed and sleep walk around the house to go see them. Then I would walk in the living room and wake up and realize that there was no one there.

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I read about lucid dreaming on wikibooks, iirc this was before the movie inception. Do you guys actually control your dreams? How do you keep bad things from happening? More importantly, do you remember anything when you wake up?

> Do you guys actually control your dreams? For me, yes. Not always fully though. Depends on the level of lucidity. > How do you keep bad things from happening? When you are lucid, you don’t fear bad things. They seem merely interesting. In a lucid dream, usually the reality you’re in seems as real as the waking reality. Full resolution, full range of senses. Because it’s the same mechanism. Your brain is presenting…

> In a lucid dream, usually the reality you’re in seems as real as the waking reality. Full resolution, full range of senses. Because it’s the same mechanism.

I have no doubt that’s how you see it, but that experience if definitely not universal. It’s never “full resolution” or “full range of senses” for me.

> Otherwise you can get caught up in the dream’s reality pretty easily, and when you do it just turns into a normal dream where you can get scared.

Also doesn’t jive with my experience. My lucid dreams always end with me waking up, they never revert to regular dreams.

Again, I have no doubt you experience things the way you described them. But your use of “you” instead of “I” makes it seem like the points are universal, and thus someone reading your post may try to only pursue that specific path.

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I read about lucid dreaming on wikibooks, iirc this was before the movie inception. Do you guys actually control your dreams? How do you keep bad things from happening? More importantly, do you remember anything when you wake up?

I do have lucid dreams (not a lot, a bit more recently, started 8 years ago and I had a dozen), I do not control them. I do think I have some control on their overall direction, but not direct control. And definitely not the kind of control my awake mind would have, because the decisions I seem to take are irrational or dumb, or both.

I think I'm able to decide to not dream while being in a lucid dream if I think I'm too tired (that happened to me only twice, but quite recently, the last time was last week). It's not a decision I would have taken while really conscious I think. I also 'chose' too wake up before my alarm clock (my asleep mind wanted to go get groceries before work. My awake mind was cold and lazy...).

Its hard to explain, not on demand (I'm sure I could work on it), I remember the whole dream when I wake up but it fades quickly. Sometimes they are emotionally draining (the two first lucid dreams I had I woke up crying, the first from joy and the other one was bittersweet, like a good relationship you have to let go). Those I remember better.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone's never had a lucid dream, I can totally see how it could be alluring. As someone that has lucid dreams nearly every night, it's just so tiring. You never get any rest. I wish I could make it stop.

Sorry to hear that and sorry for nagging you but I couldn't possibly be more intrigued after reading this! Can't you just like dream up a bed or a nice hammock on a beautiful Caribbean beach and go to sleep in the dream or something? Or is my understanding of what lucid dreaming (having never experienced it, probably... never tried on purpose, never wondered about it) too much like Inception and not enough like it re…

I've never felt tired in a lucid dream, so the thought of going to bed in the dream doesn't make any sense for me... I've always been wide awake in them.

There are some benefits to it if you're able to harness it. I've solved plenty of different programming problems in my dreams, only to get up in the morning and then go through the motions again to make them real. Sometimes it feels like the day is just on cruise control because you've already done this.

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I've had the ability to induce lucid dreams for years now. What they aren't telling you is that it's very easy to lose oneself in the fantasy of it all. At worst, it can induce complete detachment and schizophrenic-like symptoms.

How do you do it? I've only ever had a few and they seem to come on at random.

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I'm sorry, there's no chance I'll use transcranial ultrasound to manipulate my brain. People who want to lucid dream can do it the old fashioned way without being worried about things like cavitation of their brain cells. There's a reason the NHS recommends that people don't use things like 4D ultrasound as a form of entertainment. That they describe transcranial ultrasound as "non-invasive" is absurd. Either it does…

Usually the term "non-invasive" in a medical context means they don't need to cut you open to do something; not that an intervention doesn't do something.

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GPT-driven induced lucid dreams + sleeping pills + sleeping pods makes for a nice dystopian near-future movie plot where there's a new class of ever more hardcore Hikikomori that not only never leave their house, they also sleep for 20 hours per day and only wake up to do hygiene and so on. Maybe a further version includes supporting staff for life support maintenance like in paliative care place but for "never-awoke…

This seems like the entertainment option for a long space journey…

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I'm sorry, there's no chance I'll use transcranial ultrasound to manipulate my brain. People who want to lucid dream can do it the old fashioned way without being worried about things like cavitation of their brain cells. There's a reason the NHS recommends that people don't use things like 4D ultrasound as a form of entertainment. That they describe transcranial ultrasound as "non-invasive" is absurd. Either it does…

Usually the term "non-invasive" in a medical context means they don't need to cut you open to do something; not that an intervention doesn't do something.

Fair enough, yes. That said, people need to understand that this (as I understand it from the article) is absolutely having a physical tissue-level effect on their brains, and it's not necessarily a good thing.
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