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Re: Men's Shed

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Post by stuaxo »

throw932490 wrote: post #33
gardenhedge wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed there was no criticism section on Wikipedia (Hackerspaces has that section). Looking at this comment being downvoted.. Can anyone explain why men sheds should not be critisized?

Men only spaces is very inflammatory subject. Bomb threads, SWATing, and so on.. It also leads to uncomfortable questions about women only spaces. I am not surprised Wikipedia avoids this section.

Is SWATing even much of a thing outside the US? I get the feeling you are trying to hijack the thread.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by stuaxo »

incompatible wrote: post #18

I've always wondered why they need to be so sexist. Is it so terrible to have women around? But not so long ago, I saw an article about women trying to open a similar shed but finding there was a funding program which was specifically only able to men's sheds. I'm surprised they can get away with it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-21/huon-she-shed-project... "While the local men's shed welcomes women, Ms Reardon…

It sounds like some of them have moved away from that, but I guess originally it started as a thing to help older men.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by 2-718-281-828 »

sen wrote: post #3

A great idea taken over by cliques of old men who refuse to allow anyone new to take part unless you’re also their age and/or a friend of an existing member. I’m medically retired but <50 and have tried going to multiple just to find stuff to do. Ended up using maker spaces instead which have a much much wider age group and a friendlier environment all round.

this seems to be a rather regular dynamic with clubs/groups/meetups where kind of an elite is forming which thinks of the club as theirs and organizes is in such a way that this state is preserved. newbies will be screened and usually only accepted if they display total agreement with the present affairs. this leads to progressive spiritual inbreeding and inevitable downfall. possible exceptions are if there is a leader who with regard to the groups goals does an exceptional job. benevolent dictators like linus torvalds come to mind. but even here cards are redealt as soon as that leader is gone.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by incomingpain »

I had this idea a few years ago. I wanted a place where you could get access to say car lifts, welders, cnc machines, etc. The usual stuff that's hard to keep at your own home.

I lived in a condo where car work was prohibited. But I also wanted loud machines etc.

I wasn't concerned with cost, but what's the liabilities? What if someone kills themselves accidentally with this dangerous equipment. Also for this reason, insurance companies won't touch you and there's legal regulations which basically make it impossible.

For the record gender doesn't matter.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by throw932490 »

defrost wrote: post #35
throw932490 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Men only spaces is very inflammatory subject. Bomb threads, SWATing, and so on.. It also leads to uncomfortable questions about women only spaces. I am not surprised Wikipedia avoids this section.

> Bomb threads, SWATing, and so on.. You do not appear to have anything rational to add on the subject of Men's Sheds in Australia. Do you have any evidence of bomb threats or SWATing wrt to Men's Sheds in Australia?

No direct evidence for Mens Sheds of Australia. I have a long list for in US and Europe. We can start with Erin Pizzey, and why she left UK!

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by bjornasm »

lobe wrote: post #11

It's a shame that what was a good idea of having a space and community for all men really just turned into the space for that 5-10 year window for guys that are retired but not yet ready to spend their day in a nursing home. At least where I am they have a reputation for being filled with oldies that are a little slow and not friendly to plain hostile. Hopefully all of them around Australia aren't like this, but I ha…

>that 5-10 year window for guys that are retired but not yet ready to spend their day in a nursing home.

Totally unrelated, but this was very bleak. I think people ideally should have a couple of decades as a functioning but retired person.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by marssaxman »

incomingpain wrote: post #44

I had this idea a few years ago. I wanted a place where you could get access to say car lifts, welders, cnc machines, etc. The usual stuff that's hard to keep at your own home. I lived in a condo where car work was prohibited. But I also wanted loud machines etc. I wasn't concerned with cost, but what's the liabilities? What if someone kills themselves accidentally with this dangerous equipment. Also for this reason,…

That sounds like a makerspace. I started one of those twelve years ago, with a group of friends, and put all my tools into it. We had none of the trouble you describe with insurance or regulations - perhaps such things work differently in the US, rather than wherever you are? The organization is still operating to this day, and while I am no longer involved, it was a good experience which has left me with a lingering sense of satisfaction. If it still interests you, I would recommend taking another look at the idea.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by lrem »

bjornasm wrote: post #47
lobe wrote: post #11

It's a shame that what was a good idea of having a space and community for all men really just turned into the space for that 5-10 year window for guys that are retired but not yet ready to spend their day in a nursing home. At least where I am they have a reputation for being filled with oldies that are a little slow and not friendly to plain hostile. Hopefully all of them around Australia aren't like this, but I ha…

>that 5-10 year window for guys that are retired but not yet ready to spend their day in a nursing home. Totally unrelated, but this was very bleak. I think people ideally should have a couple of decades as a functioning but retired person.

Retirement ages around the world are pushing towards getting every last bit out of you. Kind of a logical consequence of having fewer children too.

Re: Men's Shed

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Post by euroderf »

lrem wrote: post #49
bjornasm wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>that 5-10 year window for guys that are retired but not yet ready to spend their day in a nursing home. Totally unrelated, but this was very bleak. I think people ideally should have a couple of decades as a functioning but retired person.

Retirement ages around the world are pushing towards getting every last bit out of you. Kind of a logical consequence of having fewer children too.

Gotta keep that downward pressure on wages.
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