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F*** Paywalls

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Re: F*** Paywalls

#41
Would be nice to see the source code for this. Then I could write up my own app to do the same. We shouldn't need to be dependent on a website that could shut down at any time.

Re: F*** Paywalls

#42

Doesn't work for most stuff anymore either. I've been using this after archive.ph became captcha hell and 12ft.io got blocked

For all of 12ft.io’s bluster it seems that they turn it off politely if the target site asks which means it doesn’t accomplish anything at all. Archive.ph needs to do something about the CAPTCHAs but maybe that is what they have to to shed load so they can afford to run it.

12ft.io is actually down for me now:

This Deployment has been disabled.

Your connection is working correctly.

Vercel is working correctly.

402: PAYMENT_REQUIRED Code: DEPLOYMENT_DISABLED

Re: F*** Paywalls

#43

20 years of World Wide Web and we still don't have micropayments so we can just pay a penny to read an article. Why does it take us so long?

News vendors don't want you to pay for individual articles you're interested in. They want you to pay for all the articles, including the shitty ones, every month.

And then cram down their bias down your throat, with you paying. Whether it’s sponsored placements or interest group’s lobbying. I mean, there is no money to make in neutrality anyway.

Re: F*** Paywalls

#44
post #27

20 years of World Wide Web and we still don't have micropayments so we can just pay a penny to read an article. Why does it take us so long?

One reason: it wouldn't be a penny. You're off by a factor of probably 100.

Ads pay pennies though. So maybe he's merely off by a factor of 5?

Re: F*** Paywalls

#45
post #25

lol what do people expect? You say you want a web without ads, now you want a web without paywalls. Sorry, but... pick one. Or watch as the internet collapses.

The fundamental problem is that you can't unread an article if you don't like it, and get your money back.

Usually you can't refund your meals in restaurants. Maybe if you insist they will let you, but it's very... Karen.

Re: F*** Paywalls

#46

lol what do people expect? You say you want a web without ads, now you want a web without paywalls. Sorry, but... pick one. Or watch as the internet collapses.

The internet existed before paywalls or ads.

Maybe not in its current form where faang gets to make billions loads of services are free, but fundamentally it can exist

Re: F*** Paywalls

#47

lol what do people expect? You say you want a web without ads, now you want a web without paywalls. Sorry, but... pick one. Or watch as the internet collapses.

We wanted music withóut paying for CDs.

Internet content is largely non exclusive and infinitely replicable.

Even the RIAA gave up and embraced the web, if begrudgingly.

Single edition single article news is simply a different type of good/product on the web. When publishers realise this and do what Spotify/QQ have done for pop music, then they'll get the additional revenue they seek.

Re: F*** Paywalls

#48

20 years of World Wide Web and we still don't have micropayments so we can just pay a penny to read an article. Why does it take us so long?

I don’t think the economics of that would work for big publications. Maybe at 5-10 cents per article they would.

How easy the transaction is is almost more important to me than the actual cost. As long as it can be one click, I'll gladly pay 5 cents to read a good article

Re: F*** Paywalls

#49

lol what do people expect? You say you want a web without ads, now you want a web without paywalls. Sorry, but... pick one. Or watch as the internet collapses.

Exactly, just like I expect to get paid for my work. I want a simple way to pay for all the pay walls in aggregate so I'm not signing up for 27 different subscriptions and I read one article from each source. I'm not against paying, I'm against a huge pile of bullshit management.

No no, that's a monopoly (by HN standards). If anything like that were to exist, in 5 years time the comments section would be full of people clamouring for anti-trust action.

Re: F*** Paywalls

#50
post #36

Is there a service like this that could work on a DNS level? I'm using a DNS ad blocker and I could set-up overrides of certain news websites to a different hostname which in turn would redirect to the bypass URL. It sounds doable but I haven't seen anything like that

A service could work but would need to work around TLS. It would either need to provide you a root CA certificate to install on your systems (bad idea as it would allow them to MITM any website), or a bundle of certificates for the hostnames of the news websites they support (so the MITM is constrained to those domains, but that's fine as that's your intention anyway).
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