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Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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This is like saying that gun violence is a solved problem except in the US where they believe solution to school shootings is more guns in schools and arming teachers.

It’s not false but it’s an oversimplification of the problem and doesn’t really serve to get to a solution. Naturally the regions most affected by $PROBLEM are going to have the highest concentration of nutters, correlation but not causation.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Birth rates were higher back when lifestyles were more prudish. Hypergamy seems to have very little positive affect on the production and growth of healthy families and children.

Birthrates have been falling ever since the invention of the pill. Children (often multiple) could no longer be forced upon women. This, along with women becoming their own economic units meant that they no longer have to risk their life and bodies in return for food and shelter from a man.

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Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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I’m going to be very mad if there is a resurgence in HIV because of the asinine GOP. If people have to be worried again about their next sexual contact (condoms only offer between 70-90% protection against HIV), we will return to a prudish lifestyle again at a time the west can least afford it with falling birth rates.

I dont think promiscuous lifestyle translates into more babies. Sorry, but this is a plain stupid assertion.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Birth rates were higher back when lifestyles were more prudish. Hypergamy seems to have very little positive affect on the production and growth of healthy families and children.

Birthrates have been falling ever since the invention of the pill. Children (often multiple) could no longer be forced upon women. This, along with women becoming their own economic units meant that they no longer have to risk their life and bodies in return for food and shelter from a man.

Slaving away to enrich your already rich boss is so much more fulfilling than working on your family.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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One thing I'm confused about is why HIV at-home tests are not more available. There's Oraquick ( https://oraquick.com/ ), which in bulk is $15/test, whereas its about $40 retail. On the other hand, we've gotten COVID tests down to something like $5 retail. On top of that, it's relatively easy to get free COVID tests. Imagine if you could test for this right before you "got down." I imagine that'd change the game. Alt…

I dont understand the last paragraph. Condoms have been widely used for decades, is there a debate similar to masks?

Have you had much casual sex lately? Anecdotally, condom use is down significantly over the last couple decades now that HIV is no longer a death sentence.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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One thing I'm confused about is why HIV at-home tests are not more available. There's Oraquick ( https://oraquick.com/ ), which in bulk is $15/test, whereas its about $40 retail. On the other hand, we've gotten COVID tests down to something like $5 retail. On top of that, it's relatively easy to get free COVID tests. Imagine if you could test for this right before you "got down." I imagine that'd change the game. Alt…

I dont understand the last paragraph. Condoms have been widely used for decades, is there a debate similar to masks?

There is, particularly around the evangelical sector in the US whom have been pushing towards banning all contraceptives (or rather, making them hard to obtain making them defacto banned). It's part of the idea that only moral approach to sex is abstinence or procreation.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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I dont understand the last paragraph. Condoms have been widely used for decades, is there a debate similar to masks?

Have you had much casual sex lately? Anecdotally, condom use is down significantly over the last couple decades now that HIV is no longer a death sentence.

Not lately no, been married 12 years. But I don't remember ever hearing about debates as heated as masks around condoms.

Yeah there are fringe groups advocating for no birth control and all, but what's really their market share? Doesn't sound similar to the big divide we had a few years ago over masks.

Re: The global fight against HIV is at risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Birthrates have been falling ever since the invention of the pill. Children (often multiple) could no longer be forced upon women. This, along with women becoming their own economic units meant that they no longer have to risk their life and bodies in return for food and shelter from a man.

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It has not.

Not providing a society the cultivates the families that create and cultivate children has. Providing a system that helps parents raise children rather than be wage slaves makes people want to have kids.

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