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New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor

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Re: New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor

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> The last patent Jobs applied for was the dramatic glass cube for the entrance to the Apple store on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, New York A patent for a glass cube! https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/28/89/c3/fd8ac1d...

When you learn to patent ideas every idea looks like a patentable idea...

I would say something similar: it is very tempting to patent stuff when you can just trigger a whole patenting process with a single email or message.

Re: New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor

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Hello ChrisMarshallNY, I know the author, thanks for sharing your views. I will share your feedback ahead. I do not think their intention is to advertise Apple because most of their articles are on analysis based on patent data.

I think he meant the article is an ad for GreyB: > You can learn much about a company’s market value and upcoming business plans by analyzing patterns in its IP strategy. Being a pioneer in the IP R&D space, GreyB has the expertise and resources to help you cut through the noise and get actionable insights on a company or innovator.

Yes, it was an ad for GreyB.

It does look like they have a legitimate BI product. It isn't what I need, but I did appreciate the insight.

Like I said, even though it is an ad, it is one that is actually useful as legitimate information.

Re: New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor

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> The last patent Jobs applied for was the dramatic glass cube for the entrance to the Apple store on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, New York A patent for a glass cube! https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/28/89/c3/fd8ac1d...

May sound ridiculous but still needs to be done to protect their identity from less reputable ripoffs that may otherwise just intentionally and exactly clone the design.

To my understanding, trademark law should already "protect their identity" by preventing use of their logo, and copyright law would already prohibit an "intentional and exact clone". A patent differs in that it counts as infringement even if you can prove you came up with it totally independently, having never seen Apple's particular glass cube.

With the large caveat that I'm not an expert on IP law, I do feel like a lot of allowed patents have a net negative value to society.

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The US patent system is a joke. Patents are basically granted for anything, and are expected to be resolved in courts.

Is the EU patent system any better?

Maybe. It is however much more restrictive for what kind of software you can get a patent

Re: New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor

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When you learn to patent ideas every idea looks like a patentable idea...

I would say something similar: it is very tempting to patent stuff when you can just trigger a whole patenting process with a single email or message.

Exactly. I don't say it is not possible for somebody to have 400 original patents, but I think it is incompatible with also having a full time job as a CEO of a large company if you had to do them yourself.

Also it is worth noting that ideas are a dime a dozen. Years ago I red Getting Things Done by David Allen and I set up my GTD system in Ultra Recall. Since then, I had the idea for the best personal information management system ever. Too bad, I carried the idea with me for too long and never executed on it. Recently I discovered that somebody had very similar idea and the application is called Notion.

See, it does not matter if you have an idea, it only has any worth if you can also execute on it.

Re: New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor

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> Savant Systems, a Massachusetts-based home automation company, worked with Apple to create a mechanism for remotely controlling the motion of a vehicle using a wireless mobile device. They filed the patent application in 2014, which was granted in 2016. They submitted an updated patent in 2016, which was granted in 2019. Steve Jobs’s name was among the inventors in both these patents. How the fuck is this patent wo…

The US patent system is a joke. Patents are basically granted for anything, and are expected to be resolved in courts.

The patent offices are likely just used to seeing a steady stream of crap from Apple that is so wacky they just accept it as part of their charm whether from a dead man or not. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple has partners (or their own) planted in the same building to coincidentally wine and dine the patent office execs regularly like lobbyists. There is obviously a well paid set of folks that just file random crap patents from Apple constantly in a hope something, anything hits, and since it's Apple they simply cannot and will not be ignored.

I really can't say I blame them either, look at the lines of patent trolls lined up in West Texas every year to sue them. State of the nation...

I do have to wonder if someone went back to criticize the fact a dead man is the most inventive corpse since 2Pac and Biggie if the patents could be invalidated as superfluous. Yeah right, it's Apple.

Re: New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor

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> The last patent Jobs applied for was the dramatic glass cube for the entrance to the Apple store on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, New York A patent for a glass cube! https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/28/89/c3/fd8ac1d...

Absolutely ridiculous.

Re: New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor

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I would say something similar: it is very tempting to patent stuff when you can just trigger a whole patenting process with a single email or message.

Exactly. I don't say it is not possible for somebody to have 400 original patents, but I think it is incompatible with also having a full time job as a CEO of a large company if you had to do them yourself. Also it is worth noting that ideas are a dime a dozen. Years ago I red Getting Things Done by David Allen and I set up my GTD system in Ultra Recall. Since then, I had the idea for the best personal information ma…

in what way is Notion “the best personal information management system ever”?

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Exactly. I don't say it is not possible for somebody to have 400 original patents, but I think it is incompatible with also having a full time job as a CEO of a large company if you had to do them yourself. Also it is worth noting that ideas are a dime a dozen. Years ago I red Getting Things Done by David Allen and I set up my GTD system in Ultra Recall. Since then, I had the idea for the best personal information ma…

in what way is Notion “the best personal information management system ever”?

I certainly don't think notion is the best, but the poster possibly thinks notion aligns with their earlier vision and what they consider "the best".

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> The last patent Jobs applied for was the dramatic glass cube for the entrance to the Apple store on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, New York A patent for a glass cube! https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/28/89/c3/fd8ac1d...

May sound ridiculous but still needs to be done to protect their identity from less reputable ripoffs that may otherwise just intentionally and exactly clone the design.

The glass cube that was in Steve Job's mind must be protected!
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