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Re: iPods now considered vintage tech– so of course sold out at Urban Outfitters

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Post by Thrymr »

kylebyte wrote: post #25
function_seven wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something that occurred to me the other day regarding my own "memories" of times before I was born: From 1965–Present, the world is in color. The tone shifts a bit, but it's all in color. 1900–1964: Black and white. The world was actually black and white. Sometimes people moved around at a weird frame-rate :) 1800–1899: Color, but very much sepia toned. The whole world was slightly dirty and brownish, but the sky was…

I have pretty much the same mental image, though with the 40's and 50's having some color probably mostly from period movies about that time. What I really wonder is whether the photos and videos we're taking in the present will have some kind of subjective effect on how people remember our current time. It feels like we're finally at a point where most media has the fidelity to capture an objective image of the worl…

I'm not sure a modern iPhone photo (say) is any more "objective" than a Kodachrome 64 slide, but there are sure going to be a lot more of them available!

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Post by sandreas »

bwoodward wrote: post #23
slotrans wrote: post #5

Still using my 2006 iPod. I've replaced the battery (easy, $8) and replaced the hard drive with an SDXC adapter which bumped the capacity from 80GB to 256GB. Such a great device. My car knows how to control it so I mostly just leave it in the car. Also great on airplanes, with the card conversion it has many hours of battery life. Amazing how every comparable device made today is so much worse.

I modded an 80gb iPod Video / 5G with the same iFlash quad (400gb+ right now with two slots free) I felt like I never had to charge the thing, so I just let it run. It went for just over 60hrs and still had 5% to go.

Depending on the battery you use, it's between 40h to 60h playtime.

I successfully used the 2200mAh batteries from "thepartguru" on iPod classics with iFlash Quad. The advantage over the 3000mah ones is, that it still fits with a thin backplate.

You should also be aware, that putting more than 256GB into the device is considered as "unstable" depending on the content you use. Having more than 50000 tracks may lead to unexpected behaviour (random reboots, showing the wrong covers for items, etc.). Technically iFlash Quad supports up to 4TB microSD space, but in practise it just does not make any sense. I would not use more than 512GB - my most stable experience was 256GB.

The reboot loops are extra nasty, because once they happen, they do at random days of a week and if you don't use your iPod every day it fries your 2200mah battery after a few days of reboot loops... expensive experience ;)

Re: iPods now considered vintage tech– so of course sold out at Urban Outfitters

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Post by vjulian »

I now somewhat expect to see discussion elsewhere or articles in questionable publications suggesting that the iPod’s sound quality is superior, on the false axiom that so-called vintage sound reproduction devices offer superior audio quality.

Re: iPods now considered vintage tech– so of course sold out at Urban Outfitters

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Post by echelon_musk »

koolba wrote: post #15
slotrans wrote: post #5

Still using my 2006 iPod. I've replaced the battery (easy, $8) and replaced the hard drive with an SDXC adapter which bumped the capacity from 80GB to 256GB. Such a great device. My car knows how to control it so I mostly just leave it in the car. Also great on airplanes, with the card conversion it has many hours of battery life. Amazing how every comparable device made today is so much worse.

> Also great on airplanes, with the card conversion it has many hours of battery life. How many? > Amazing how every comparable device made today is so much worse. Music devices are like cameras, the best one is always the one you actually have with you. That said, nothing will compare to the tinny sound of a Rio PMP processing 128kbps mp3s that have been recompressed to 32kbps. Sounded like angels in your ears were…

> How many?

I've trialled mSATA, SDXC and Compact Flash.

16 hours is easily achievable using CF and a "fat" back that fits a 1900mah battery. Rockbox provides a plugin called Battery Bench that allows you to benchmark how long you can continuously listen to music for.

Having recently switched from mSATA to SDXC I am yet to run a benchmark for SD. From recent usage I would guess 12hrs is fairly easily achievable.

EDIT: bwoodward has benched 60hrs of playback with a 5th gen Video and SDXC below.

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Post by echelon_musk »

sandreas wrote: post #36
Le_Dook wrote: post #34

I got an iPod last year and have been really enjoying what's possible with them. Using rockbox opens up a lot of features, especially usb file transfer and flac. I've gone so far as to make my own themes to build upon the old UI https://github.com/D0-0K/adwaitapod

Does rockbox support headphone remote controls (vol+,vol-,play,pause,next,prev) and audio books with chapters these days via extra "audio books" category? I would be interested.

Headphone remote controls are supported by rockbox (the iPod FM Radio A1187 is an example of this).

Re: iPods now considered vintage tech– so of course sold out at Urban Outfitters

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Post by dabluecaboose »

Le_Dook wrote: post #34

I got an iPod last year and have been really enjoying what's possible with them. Using rockbox opens up a lot of features, especially usb file transfer and flac. I've gone so far as to make my own themes to build upon the old UI https://github.com/D0-0K/adwaitapod

I love rockbox but never quite found the UX to feel quite as effortless as iPod OS. I've tried a few skins for it but all of them end up feeling slightly less slick than stock

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Post by aimor »

yterdy wrote: post #18

I've been through many a music machine since my first true mp3 player (after a year of fumbling with a half-broken Sony MD player), but if I could shove a 512GB MicroSD card, new battery, and new screen into my old DAH-1500i MobiBLU Cube[1], I'd pick it up again and never let go. Even without playlists, it was perfect: tiny, but with a display (which I didn't even need to use half the time, as I could navigate its me…

Ah I had this, used it for years, and share your feelings. I really love interesting form factors, especially when they maintain practicality. There was a lot of interesting things back then, before the smartphone convergence, when electronics were still toys. I accidentally smashed the screen of my fancy phone (at the time) and on a whim I bought the cheap Nokia Twist as a replacement. Nearly two decades of touchscreens later and I still miss how tiny it was and how good it felt to slide open.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Nokia+twist&kp=1&t=ffab&iar=images...

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Post by tomjen3 »

function_seven wrote: post #6
kylebyte wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's weird to think that for people without clear memories of it, the 2000's might be imagined in the style of early digital photos the same way the 70's look like Super 8 footage or the early 20th century is sepia toned in my head.

Something that occurred to me the other day regarding my own "memories" of times before I was born: From 1965–Present, the world is in color. The tone shifts a bit, but it's all in color. 1900–1964: Black and white. The world was actually black and white. Sometimes people moved around at a weird frame-rate :) 1800–1899: Color, but very much sepia toned. The whole world was slightly dirty and brownish, but the sky was…

Its funny, because I agree with you mostly, but there are some very old colour photos and they really fuck with your brain.

I appoligize for the source, but if you scroll down hopefully you get what I mean https://www.boredpanda.com/first-color-photos-vintage-old-au....

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Post by lolive »

Shawnj2 wrote: post #17
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #13

Standalone MP3 players are increasingly useful, now that: 1) Most smartphones lack a headphone jack 2) Most smartphones lack an SD card slot 3) Your phone is probably the most important thing you have on your person, and conserving the battery life is more important than listening to music I unfortunately ditched my Sansa Fuse mp3 player after I got my first smartphone, because the Galaxy S2 felt like a straight upgr…

The YouTuber DankPods has an argument that the last iPod Touch is actually a good device for this use case because has a then-modern A10 which is well faster than what you need to run an MP3 player, you can use it with music streaming services to download your catalog, it has a headphone Jack, and it’s not that expensive to get a high capacity one.

My very-alive iPhone 6s is still my most useful device ever.

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Post by soneil »

at_a_remove wrote: post #40

I am just now trying to enter this space. These things are apparently called "digital music players." Information on playlists is sketchy, at best, which seems to hold true everywhere, from car head units to the humble Roku, but that is the feature about which I care the most. The click-wheel patent Apple had has finally elapsed.

I've been wondering how long until someone comes up with a drop-in logic board for the classic iPods, now that the patents are dropping off. Not only is it the only part with no new replacements, but mobile parts have come a long way.

My biggest worry would be matching the smoothness of the interface - rockbox has been going at least since my iPod Mini was new, and it still doesn't feel right.

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