What about all these porn stars who have sex while driving Tesla. They should definitely be guilty of dangerous driving. edit: link to the article about it https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7015229/Elon-Musk-r...
Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
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Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#42I saw a Tesla driving down I-5 yesterday and the person in the driver's seat was wearing headphones and holding their phone in a way that made it seem like they were playing video games (landscape mode, both thumbs hovering). In the passing lane. Barely doing the speed limit. Simply unacceptable on this highway where the right lane typically travels 0-5mph below the speed limit and the left lane travels 5-15mph over.…
> At the very least Tesla should have a "merge right when appropriate" priority in their Autopilot offering. It seems drivers all over the Bay area have forgotten this basic traffic-mitigating rule too. You expect this from a company that writes software that will intentionally roll through stop signs?!? Or that lets you set parameters on how much to exceed the speed limit by?
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#43Waymo claims to already have a better record than human drivers. How long before we read a similar case where a driver is accused of creating unsafe conditions by taking control of the car?
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#44Waymo claims to already have a better record than human drivers. How long before we read a similar case where a driver is accused of creating unsafe conditions by taking control of the car?
A while, there's only one car maker selling one car to the general public right now who's taking legal liability for crashes while their system is active.
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#45I saw a Tesla driving down I-5 yesterday and the person in the driver's seat was wearing headphones and holding their phone in a way that made it seem like they were playing video games (landscape mode, both thumbs hovering). In the passing lane. Barely doing the speed limit. Simply unacceptable on this highway where the right lane typically travels 0-5mph below the speed limit and the left lane travels 5-15mph over.…
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
That Mercedes-Benz system is a glorified adaptive cruise control and has several limitations that Tesla autopilot does not have. > There must be a vehicle in front of your car, reasonable road conditions with readable markings and lines, and clear weather and light conditions. Drive Pilot can’t be used at night or in the rain, and the headlights and wipers must be set to auto for it to work. > It’s also only availabl…
It is just very fancy cruise control but it's still very significant to the whole "will a person ever get in trouble for taking over from the automated system" discussion that they're the only ones taking legal responsibility while the system is active. Everyone else including Tesla puts all the legal weight on you to stay constantly alert and take over for the system.
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#47Don't you have to defeat a safety interlock to allow hands off the wheel driving in a Tesla?
I think it "depends on the market". My Tesla Model Y 2023 in the Netherlands complains a lot if I take my hands off the steering wheel. Heck, it even complains sometimes when my hands are in the steering wheel! However, I rented a Model 3 in California through Hertz past month and it was much more lenient. I imagine I had to take my hands off for a period of time at least 5 times longer for it to start bothering, and…
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have to nudge the wheel every 30s or so, and respond to audible prompts to "wiggle" the wheel or steering control will be disabled for the rest of the drive.
I think its by distance. On the freeway its more "whiny" for you to wiggle wheel.
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#49I saw a Tesla driving down I-5 yesterday and the person in the driver's seat was wearing headphones and holding their phone in a way that made it seem like they were playing video games (landscape mode, both thumbs hovering). In the passing lane. Barely doing the speed limit. Simply unacceptable on this highway where the right lane typically travels 0-5mph below the speed limit and the left lane travels 5-15mph over.…
Of course, it could also have been one of the cases where the car just navigated poorly and thinks it needs to be in the left lane for some reason. The vehicle's lane selection is not great, IMO.
Re: Tesla owner who drove with 'arms folded' cleared of dangerous driving
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
That Mercedes-Benz system is a glorified adaptive cruise control and has several limitations that Tesla autopilot does not have. > There must be a vehicle in front of your car, reasonable road conditions with readable markings and lines, and clear weather and light conditions. Drive Pilot can’t be used at night or in the rain, and the headlights and wipers must be set to auto for it to work. > It’s also only availabl…
It is just very fancy cruise control but it's still very significant to the whole "will a person ever get in trouble for taking over from the automated system" discussion that they're the only ones taking legal responsibility while the system is active. Everyone else including Tesla puts all the legal weight on you to stay constantly alert and take over for the system.