I find the GCP documentation to be lacking compared to AWS. Specifically while using GCP with Terraform I hit more frustrating nonsense error messages with little to no google hits or undocumented behavior around IAM config compared to my experience doing similar things on AWS.
I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
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Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
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Considering their earnings today being down in cloud I think I would rightfully worry about their long term commitment.
GCP revenue is up 28% YoY, and it went from a $440M quarterly loss in 2022 Q3 to a $266M profit 2023 Q3. Who'd shut down a business like that?
Google has closed time after time things that were profitable and/or loved by their customer. At this point I don't see how anyone would be willing to bet the farm on anything Google
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#43I find the GCP documentation to be lacking compared to AWS. Specifically while using GCP with Terraform I hit more frustrating nonsense error messages with little to no google hits or undocumented behavior around IAM config compared to my experience doing similar things on AWS.
Google could have the best products on the market but no one is going to use them if the support isn't there.
I was sad when Looker got bought by google. I remember having issues with setting up looker and using their chat functionality and having the CEO of Looker answer my question.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
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What odds would you like to bet that GCP is going to be gone in 10 years?
The sentiment is probably not abou GCP as a whole, but about its trigger happiness when it comes to deprecating services. Fun read: https://steve-yegge.medium.com/dear-google-cloud-your-deprec...
Name the odds and condition you think gcp will violate.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#46My biggest challenge with GCP is that I'm still not convinced Google cares that much about this division. They acquired Looker, fired the customer service staff, and then set it out to crumble. Looker used to be LOVED by its customers but now they were forced to make their semantic layer work with Tableau. Also, I'm still not convinced Google cares about divisions that aren't linked to advertising. Google Search, Gma…
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
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> cannot imagine what a significant argument would be to use AWS instead of GCP that outweighs the benefits and the seemingly integrated services. Confidence that it will continue to exist in the next 3-10 years?
What odds would you like to bet that GCP is going to be gone in 10 years?
Odds? Nobody's a fortune teller, but it was still being subsidized by ads with 3B loss in its FY22[0 p. 70], only increasing 100M in profit despite cloud revenue growing from 19B to 26B overall [0 p. 66]. They're either going to need to increase costs or add more "killer" products with large margins if they want to become profitable.
0: https://abc.xyz/assets/d4/4f/a48b94d548d0b2fdc029a95e8c63/20...
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#48Meaning, even if you're a F500 company you are an insignificant gnat on the windshield of the gigantic G-machine that makes its money elsewhere.
Now, I don't believe think they'd actually shut GCP down. Cloud is just too damn strategic in a post Y2k world.
Complain about Amazon if you wish, and there are many reasons to. They are not as tech-oriented and the task-master culture of Bezos is well-known by now. But at the very least they are sales and customer focused, and retail and cloud is where they make their money. So incentives are better aligned with them. Even if their customer service is not amazing, the fact that it actually exists is a large factor in their favor.
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#49There's a decent chance that in a few years GCP will be no more.
I had an argument with one of the biggest investors in Google a few years ago, in which I was predicting exactly this scenario. He didn't believe me.
Perhaps I was right after all.
GCP lost a ton of money since its inception. Its leadership is so far away from being able to run this business properly, that I would never recommend anyone to put all their eggs on GCP.
Plus, as your company scales, you should REDUCE, not increase, your cloud usage, in favor of a properly optimized on-prem.
Well, just my 0.02. What do I know, right?
Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)
#50At Coherence (withcoherence.com) - I'm a cofounder - we deliver a developer platform that lets use use either cloud in a developer-friendly way. It also gives you some protection against lock-in to either cloud.