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Re: Alexei Navalny's lawyers are arrested

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> We're lucky to live in the west where that kind of thing doesn't happen. Was that a sarcastic comment or did you entirely miss out the whole Snowden affair ?

I think it's a reference to how Trump's lawyers keep on getting in trouble. AFAIK Snowden's lawyers have never been newsworthy — I'm sure he's got some, but I've never heard of them.

>I'm sure he's got some, but I've never heard of them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Kucherena

Re: Alexei Navalny's lawyers are arrested

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I have a huge respect for Navalny. They tried to murder him and after spending time in a German hospital he decided to go back knowing that they'll imprison him or try to kill him again.

I think he miscalculated the degree of cruelty he’ll experience. Also his move itself could be the trigger as if this cruelty would nit be there, then he would have been a hero winning, not a hero losing. Steps “had to be made”, sadly.

I don't know... they tried to kill him and they killed people before for less. Knowing some Russian and Soviet history it's pretty clear what mentality you're fighting.

Re: Alexei Navalny's lawyers are arrested

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I'm surprised he was able to make such statements for this long. I genuinely wonder why his captors even continue to let him live, when it seems like any post-2022 civil protest in Russia can and will be brutally repressed.

Have you seen pictures of him lately? For some people that's worse than death. It's a clear message from Putin. Get in my way and you'll end up like him. Not everybody is going to take that risk.

I imagine they're treating him like they treated Winston Smith in the book 1984.

Re: Alexei Navalny's lawyers are arrested

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I'm surprised he was able to make such statements for this long. I genuinely wonder why his captors even continue to let him live, when it seems like any post-2022 civil protest in Russia can and will be brutally repressed.

Have you seen pictures of him lately? For some people that's worse than death. It's a clear message from Putin. Get in my way and you'll end up like him. Not everybody is going to take that risk.

The clear message by putin was prigoshins end. There is no negotiations or civil due process, if you come at the King you best not miss.

Re: Alexei Navalny's lawyers are arrested

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post #13

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Have you seen pictures of him lately? For some people that's worse than death. It's a clear message from Putin. Get in my way and you'll end up like him. Not everybody is going to take that risk.

I haven't seen pictures. Just did a quick search now and didn't find anything relevant. Is he in as precarious a state as Julian Assange is?

https://twitter.com/teamnavalny/status/1714612649873268926 (Oct 18)

Re: Alexei Navalny's lawyers are arrested

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post #13

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Have you seen pictures of him lately? For some people that's worse than death. It's a clear message from Putin. Get in my way and you'll end up like him. Not everybody is going to take that risk.

I haven't seen pictures. Just did a quick search now and didn't find anything relevant. Is he in as precarious a state as Julian Assange is?

There are several pictures of him in a recent trial where he looks way skinnier an paler.

Re: Alexei Navalny's lawyers are arrested

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https://archive.ph/wqONd

Why do people keep pushing archive.ph/.is? The site is infamous for putting people into constant captcha check hell.

Because this website bypasses paywalls and loginwalls - it has accounts for a lot of the social media websites, so you don't see a generic "Login to see this page" but the actual contents.

Re: Alexei Navalny's lawyers are arrested

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We just do it differently. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2020/12/united-kingd...

Assange isn't a lawyer, and definitely isn't "the opposition's lawyer".

Yeah. But he was also over a decade in jail without a trial.

Don't get me worng: The state of justice here is certainly better than in Russia, but we should give ourselves the same scrutiny we give to the Russians. Closing our eyes when we do obvious unlawful things is bad for our rule of law and makes us look like hypocrites when we (rightfully) point out injustices elsewhere.

Re: Alexei Navalny's lawyers are arrested

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you seen pictures of him lately? For some people that's worse than death. It's a clear message from Putin. Get in my way and you'll end up like him. Not everybody is going to take that risk.

I imagine they're treating him like they treated Winston Smith in the book 1984.

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Re: Alexei Navalny's lawyers are arrested

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post #22
post #7

I have a huge respect for Navalny. They tried to murder him and after spending time in a German hospital he decided to go back knowing that they'll imprison him or try to kill him again.

I think he miscalculated the degree of cruelty he’ll experience. Also his move itself could be the trigger as if this cruelty would nit be there, then he would have been a hero winning, not a hero losing. Steps “had to be made”, sadly.

What has allowed the Russian state to treat him with such a degree of cruelty is the war with Ukraine. News of his arrest, imprisonment, and treatment in jail were overshadowed by those of another airstrike on a civilian population. Not to mention, it sent a clear message to internal opposition that those willing to act against the state would face not just legal hurdles but also tyranny and physical violence.
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