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How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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> Evading in-person meetings or requests for drug tests Why would they evade drug tests and meeting in person? Do the "techies" claim they are not Korean at all? Surely, a North Korean would pass as a South Korean to (at least) any non-Korean colleague?

How do you do a drug test on a remote worker?

And why? If they can’t do the job you fire them.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

#43

> Evading in-person meetings or requests for drug tests Why would they evade drug tests and meeting in person? Do the "techies" claim they are not Korean at all? Surely, a North Korean would pass as a South Korean to (at least) any non-Korean colleague?

Yeah, plenty of people will adopt the persona of someone else just to get hired.

If you're a white person on a freelancer website, you may get approached by someone who wants to buy your account.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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> Evading in-person meetings or requests for drug tests Why would they evade drug tests and meeting in person? Do the "techies" claim they are not Korean at all? Surely, a North Korean would pass as a South Korean to (at least) any non-Korean colleague?

In today’s game of “North Korean or Bay Area?”:

- North Korean: Uh-oh. I can’t physically do either of those.

- Bay Area: I’m not taking bus-to-BART-to-bus from Berkeley to the city for some meeting that could’ve been a Zoom. Drug test? Is there a minimum level I need to pass? Not doing it.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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post #41

> Evading in-person meetings or requests for drug tests Why would they evade drug tests and meeting in person? Do the "techies" claim they are not Korean at all? Surely, a North Korean would pass as a South Korean to (at least) any non-Korean colleague?

How do you do a drug test on a remote worker? And why? If they can’t do the job you fire them.

Drug tests are almost always outsourced, and there are facilities around the world that do this.

Why? Depending on the work, it might be a legal requirement. But for the purposes of these guidelines, it doesn't matter. The point is, if they are evading in-person tasks, it could be because they're misrepresenting their location.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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> Evading in-person meetings or requests for drug tests Why would they evade drug tests and meeting in person? Do the "techies" claim they are not Korean at all? Surely, a North Korean would pass as a South Korean to (at least) any non-Korean colleague?

If someone is asking for my piss, it better be in a sexual context. Drug tests are dehumanizing af. What I do outside my work hours is my own private time.

The drugs you took outside your work hours don't know they have to exit your bloodstream the hour you start working. Perhaps not all occupations need such tests, but at least people driving vehicles and operating heavy equipment should be made sure to have their system clear while at work.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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Here is my opinion as someone who worked with alongside North Koreans (textile factory) and visited NK. I am from East Europe and have 10 years in IT.

- NK secret service (or whatever you call it) is more sophisticated than this. They will act as proper company from Turkey, India, China or even EU countries...

- if you actually manage to get some North Korean who escaped to West, they are 10x more dedicated than anyone else. China, or South Korea (usual target countries) do not offer many opportunities, they need money for relatives.

- NK secret services do not attack west infrastructure, or steal info from small fish. They are too small to do that! Most money is from drugs and guns.

- if you hire US only, you eliminate 99.99% of issues. US borders are not ideal, but they do repeal unwanted Asians.

Edit: * stitching, working with cloth, it was textile factory in East Europe

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone is asking for my piss, it better be in a sexual context. Drug tests are dehumanizing af. What I do outside my work hours is my own private time.

unless you want to work for the gov.

This. If there is a government contract involved, even if you are not working directly on it, you will have to pee in a cup.

But getting around that is stupid easy and simple, it is laughable.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

#49
I'm amazed that the "alt-detection" problem from multiplayer games has become a business problem. I guess the US gov has been doing this for decades for security clearances, is there a commercial equivalent that works internationally?

And there's still the "man-in-the-middle" problem.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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post #46
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone is asking for my piss, it better be in a sexual context. Drug tests are dehumanizing af. What I do outside my work hours is my own private time.

The drugs you took outside your work hours don't know they have to exit your bloodstream the hour you start working. Perhaps not all occupations need such tests, but at least people driving vehicles and operating heavy equipment should be made sure to have their system clear while at work.

The tests usually don't have granularity to know if you're intoxicated during work hours precisely. Most test for metabolites that either aren't intoxicating or intoxicating in far higher levels than detection cutoff.
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