Anyone willing to speculate if there is any legal recourse?
In the Wild West?
Bandcamp's Entire Union Bargaining Team Was Laid Off
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#43Here's the bit of the article they put in the middle after all the outrage: > "On Monday, October 16, 2023 over half of Bandcamp was laid off as a result of Epic Games’ divestiture to Songtradr,” Bandcamp United said in a statement. “Of those laid off, 40 were in the union bargaining unit out of a total 67 members. None of the eight (8) democratically elected bargaining team members received a job offer." I can't be…
> the kinds of people who have time to lead a union are likely to be the kinds of people without important jobs ... Wow. That's something you'd never hear in Europe (outside of a golf course, at least). For the record, leading a union is an important job, and all that's required to want the job is a sense of fairness. In reality, many people balance multiple responsibilities, including leadership roles in unions alon…
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#45That seems like a hack
The hack is knowing that this will lead many other Bandcamp staff who want a union to look for new jobs. Bandcamp bust their union and do a cheap layoff at the same time.
Seeing that half of the employees were already laid off, I assume most of the others will see the writing on the wall and start looking for new jobs no matter if they want a union or not...
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#46We've been developing a curated alternative to Bandcamp for electronic music, which also replaces Soundclound and Mixcloud. It's called Formaviva (https://formaviva.com)
We are a bootstrapped team of musicians, loyal to independent music so we want out platform to stay that way.
We're also hiring: https://formaviva.com/jobs
PS: I'm one of the team members
Re: Bandcamp's Entire Union Bargaining Team Was Laid Off
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you define exploitation?
Unless you have shares - you are exploited for your surplus value. This is true for any and all wage based labour.
there is both producer and consumer surplus, both supply and demand surplus. If there isn't, you're looking at abusive price discrimination.
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#49I find it so weird to read these stories on how Americans cope with unionizing. In the Netherlands where I live it is very common and normal to be member of a union. Most branches have a union, IT sector is a "free sector" and does not have a union. My wife works as a teacher and she is member of a union.
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#50In the UK we have large unions that represent the individuals regardless where they work. I’ve not heard of company-specific unions here, although I’ve not looked for them either. Presumably companies must still recognise the unions.
Is it more common in the US to have company-specific unions? Are the large “independent” unions present at all?
I would assume that being larger and independent of an employer would make them more useful to their members.
Watching, casually, the news of Bandcamp’s and Moog’s unions over the last year, I couldn’t shake the feeling they wouldn’t work out as they’d be too small and likely their leadership inexperienced.