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Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing

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post #14

I was intially convinced this was an art project or a hoax... The people on the team page seem to exist. But I'm still not entirely convinced there's not something else going on here.

It is an exercise in trolling. The president, Aron D’Souza, is a Peter Thiel buddy, and sounds like somebody who would find bullet points like "Inclusive Language" and "How to come out as enhanced" hilarious in this context.

Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing

#42

This is very transparently a gross, cruel attempt to parody and belittle trans people, as is made clear by the people involved and the language: “7 Tips on How To Come Out as Enhanced” And the “believe the science” and “colonialist” bits are very much a conservative-doing-an-impression-of-a-liberal thing. There’s worse if you read through their mission pages. I’m taken aback by the level of effort, honestly. It reall…

> It really astounds me how much money and effort there is behind ostracizing already marginalized people.

The males who compete in women's sports aren't being marginalized, in fact quite the opposite, they are dominating the competition and causing female athletes to be marginalized in their own sports. It's rank misogyny, centering male demands and desires way above any sense of fairness and safety for women.

If this website is indeed a parody aimed at the male intruders ruining women's sport, then I'm all for it. These cheating men and the sporting bodies that enable them deserve all the criticism they get.

Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing

#43

Pretty sure this is a hoax/satire/anti-trans argument. So, going to just answer the anti trans piece. There is no trans athletes dominating sport. Even us talking about it is because conservatives want to use it as a wedge issue. For the mathematically inclined, slightly under 1% of the population are trans. When we see more than 1% of winners of athletic competitions being trans then we can talk about a problem. At…

> There is no trans athletes dominating sport.

Yes there are, see https://shewon.org for an increasingly long list of women who have been pushed off the podium by trans-identifying males competing as women.

Some women are even quitting the sports they've trained so hard for, because these males are ruining the competition, e.g. see https://www.outkick.com/cycling-champ-hannah-arensman-retire....

Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing

#44
post #14

I was intially convinced this was an art project or a hoax... The people on the team page seem to exist. But I'm still not entirely convinced there's not something else going on here.

It is an exercise in trolling. The president, Aron D’Souza, is a Peter Thiel buddy, and sounds like somebody who would find bullet points like "Inclusive Language" and "How to come out as enhanced" hilarious in this context.

Ok. So an elaborate libertarianbro in-joke?

Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing

#45
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is an exercise in trolling. The president, Aron D’Souza, is a Peter Thiel buddy, and sounds like somebody who would find bullet points like "Inclusive Language" and "How to come out as enhanced" hilarious in this context.

Ok. So an elaborate libertarianbro in-joke?

Yup

Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing

#46
The majority of top level athletes are doping and not getting caught. You're delusional if you believe otherwise. There are even approved medical doping practices in sports, where athletes are given legal consent to use steroids and PEDs. As an example, note the uptick in football (soccer) players being asthmatic? Why? Because the asthma medications increase performance on the field. It's everywhere! Those that believe athletes aren't cheating are only people not involved in sports and unaware of the realities it takes to achieve those levels of performance. If you're not doping, you're not winning, whether it's drug tested or not. There's literally drug test avoidance coaches all over. Entire industries for it. Common knowledge isn't the same as truth.

Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing

#47
post #6

When atheles start collapsing of heart-failure on the track, then what?

this is a risk even without PEDs though, right?

If the health-risks were the same (and they aren’t) I don’t think we’d be complaining as much. We don’t want to encourage people compromising their health like this; but it’s not the elite-athletes I’m worried about, but their millions of followers - think: kids doing high-school athletics - or people who are inspired by major sporting events to start doing exercise - it benefits no-one by implicitly encouraging everyone to do sports PEDs.

IMB4 anyone suggests that a Vyvanse prescription is equivalent to sports PEDs, despite both being significant risks to heart-health.

Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing

#48
post #42

This is very transparently a gross, cruel attempt to parody and belittle trans people, as is made clear by the people involved and the language: “7 Tips on How To Come Out as Enhanced” And the “believe the science” and “colonialist” bits are very much a conservative-doing-an-impression-of-a-liberal thing. There’s worse if you read through their mission pages. I’m taken aback by the level of effort, honestly. It reall…

> It really astounds me how much money and effort there is behind ostracizing already marginalized people. The males who compete in women's sports aren't being marginalized, in fact quite the opposite, they are dominating the competition and causing female athletes to be marginalized in their own sports. It's rank misogyny, centering male demands and desires way above any sense of fairness and safety for women. If th…

Trans people represent a fraction-of-a-percent of people in the total population. They are not “dominating” anyone. Trans people are ruining sports the same way Jewish people control the banking sector: they don’t.

You also completely overlooked FtM trans people in your concern-trolling piece there.

Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing

#49
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It really astounds me how much money and effort there is behind ostracizing already marginalized people. The males who compete in women's sports aren't being marginalized, in fact quite the opposite, they are dominating the competition and causing female athletes to be marginalized in their own sports. It's rank misogyny, centering male demands and desires way above any sense of fairness and safety for women. If th…

Trans people represent a fraction-of-a-percent of people in the total population. They are not “dominating” anyone. Trans people are ruining sports the same way Jewish people control the banking sector: they don’t. You also completely overlooked FtM trans people in your concern-trolling piece there.

Actually there have been hundreds of cases of trans-identifying males winning in women's sports, taking women's prizes and places on the podium. There's a list of these on https://shewon.org and it's not even a complete list yet.

These males are ruining sports for women athletes, as are the sporting bodies whose policies have enabled this. Some women have even quit the sports they've worked so hard to compete in, because of how unfair this situation is.

Re: The Enhanced Game – Sports, without drug testing

#50
post #43

Pretty sure this is a hoax/satire/anti-trans argument. So, going to just answer the anti trans piece. There is no trans athletes dominating sport. Even us talking about it is because conservatives want to use it as a wedge issue. For the mathematically inclined, slightly under 1% of the population are trans. When we see more than 1% of winners of athletic competitions being trans then we can talk about a problem. At…

> There is no trans athletes dominating sport. Yes there are, see https://shewon.org for an increasingly long list of women who have been pushed off the podium by trans-identifying males competing as women. Some women are even quitting the sports they've trained so hard for, because these males are ruining the competition, e.g. see https://www.outkick.com/cycling-champ-hannah-arensman-retire... .

Are you for real? The last of those entries is

“ Miss Greater Derry, New Hampshire Beauty Pageant (part of the Miss America Pageant events), 10 November”

Literally nowhere near the top of the sport and like I said we would expect 1% of winners to be trans.

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