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Re: LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineering teams

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Post by newsclues »

paxys wrote: post #24
LewisVerstappen wrote: post #3

> LinkedIn is now ramping up hiring in India, according the person familiar. So, laying off people in the US and hiring in India?

Is anyone really surprised? Did you think the end result of the WFH movement was going to be companies continuing to pay you to live out of your Bay Area house?

No people thought they could cash Bay Area paycheques while working from low cost rural areas with WFH.

Re: LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineering teams

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Post by JohnFen »

bastardoperator wrote: post #17
pastor_bob wrote: post #8

"Today I had to say goodbye to my fellow LinkedInians. I am truly grateful for the 2 years I spent there creating value for shareholders of MSFT. Being pushed by my managers to excel and being able to learn from Satya Nadella's memos made it some of the most impactful years of my life. ETC ETC. Please refer me at your company. Thanks." - 700 linkedIn posts appearing today.

And? You'll be doing the same thing when your number gets pulled...

I certainly wouldn't, no.

> creating value for shareholders of MSFT

I laughed at this part. If being grateful about increasing shareholder value (without a mention of increasing value for users) is a common attitude there, that explains quite a lot about why LinkedIn is the way it is.

Re: LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineering teams

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Post by pixelatedindex »

d3w4s9 wrote: post #23
LewisVerstappen wrote: post #3

> LinkedIn is now ramping up hiring in India, according the person familiar. So, laying off people in the US and hiring in India?

Google is doing the same thing. Same as my own employer. Funny that some people think "if we work in the office more, companies won't outsource jobs as much".

Maybe not, but from the company’s perspective if you’re not in the office then it doesn’t matter how far away you are (with some time zone restrictions maybe, but remote work heavily relies on async communication anyway). So they’ll look for the cheapest labor they can get away with.

I guess you can now have RTO in India though?

Re: LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineering teams

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Post by gabyar »

raybb wrote: post #12
coldpie wrote: post #4

Good news for those 700: because we don't have tech worker unions, they are able to individually bargain the terms of their layoff! ...right?

There are some tech worker unions (like at NYT) but not enough. A relevant book that recently came out but I have not read is You Deserve a Tech Union by Ethan Marcotte https://abookapart.com/products/you-deserve-a-tech-union

My first job was at a tech company with a union. Boeing.

It was ridiculously bad. I've never worked with less talented people. One of my coworkers did nothing, at all, for 2 years. But with 17 years of experience, he couldn't be fired.

I carried the team, but they couldn't pay me what I was worth or promote me. I left as soon as I could.

Re: LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineering teams

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

coldpie wrote: post #4

Good news for those 700: because we don't have tech worker unions, they are able to individually bargain the terms of their layoff! ...right?

Don’t you know?

We 10x engineers are so special that we are waving off offer after offer and that will never end.

Not only will that never end, but luckily I’m so perfect that I’ll never experience a disability or need any accommodation that I can’t just code or build myself.

I mean even then, certainly you had a good enough exit at your first company (like anyone good) that you could basically retire whenever.

I mean, you know it boils down to this: just be a better software engineer and you’ll never have to NEED a union. The only people that need unions probably suck at algorithms and think Kubernetes is too hard.

Live in emacs or starve is my motto

Re: LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineering teams

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Post by MisterPea »

pastor_bob wrote: post #28

>"We did not expect to share this important update with you all in the midst of such challenging times, but in the spirit of creating clarity, Tomer and I wanted to share some news regarding changes we are making to our orgs....Tomer and I made these decisions with deep consideration - Mohak & Tomer" Is it normal for a CEO like Satya Nadella not to write this email? Kind of off-putting that MSFT is keeping its hands…

MSFT generally has a hands off approach to acquisitions if the company delivers on financial metrics set by MSFT.

Conversation probably started by Satya asking the LinkedIn CEO to just reduce X$ expenses and the LinkedIn leadership made these specific changes.

Re: LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineering teams

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Post by Apocryphon »

aaa_aaa wrote: post #36
coldpie wrote: post #4

Good news for those 700: because we don't have tech worker unions, they are able to individually bargain the terms of their layoff! ...right?

[flagged]

Perhaps a newly-formed modern day union would strive to improve upon the problems of past unions with the benefit of historical hindsight.

Re: LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineering teams

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Post by electrondood »

pastor_bob wrote: post #31
bastardoperator wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And? You'll be doing the same thing when your number gets pulled...

Reaching out for referrals, yes. Praising the company that threw me out on the street. No thanks.

90% of work is performative bullshit anyway. LinkedIn is the epitome of performative bullshit.

Re: LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineering teams

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Post by ecshafer »

raybb wrote: post #12
coldpie wrote: post #4

Good news for those 700: because we don't have tech worker unions, they are able to individually bargain the terms of their layoff! ...right?

There are some tech worker unions (like at NYT) but not enough. A relevant book that recently came out but I have not read is You Deserve a Tech Union by Ethan Marcotte https://abookapart.com/products/you-deserve-a-tech-union

The biography for Ethan marcotte says he is responsible for “responsive web design”, which looks like he made wrote some book in 2010 about the topic. But didn’t actually write the browser code, specifications, frameworks or anything that actually allows responsive web design. Not was he involved in any of the first examples.

Kind of tangential but that seems like a resume stuffer at best and stolen valor at worst.

Re: LinkedIn laying off nearly 700, mostly from core engineering teams

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Post by dominick-cc »

gumballindie wrote: post #13
LewisVerstappen wrote: post #3

> LinkedIn is now ramping up hiring in India, according the person familiar. So, laying off people in the US and hiring in India?

Lmao they wont allow remote work in the west but are fine with remote work elsewhere.

The new doublethink
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