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F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by SkiFire13 »

Kwpolska wrote: post #36
OfSanguineFire wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Banks in many countries require an Android phone for online banking. Even if they offer an online-banking website that you can access with any browser, you may still need the Android app for 2FA. This is one of a number of reasons why the PinePhone or Librem is unfortunately not a daily driver. Also, things like paying for parking or interacting with public services are moving to Android apps in some places.

Don't most banking apps reject non-GooglePlay/unofficial-image/rooted phones?

Most reject phones that don't pass SafetyNet. There are ways to pass it with unofficial images/rooted phones, although I'm not sure for how long they will keep working and I think you still need Google Play.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by Arnt »

nani8ot wrote: post #38
nolok wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand what you mean ? F-droid doesn't ship a keyboard app.

If they installed a keyboard with the same app id (e.g. com.google.[...]) F-Droid would try to update it and ask the user to confirm the update since F-Droid can't update an app that was installed by another app store. I'd be curious which keyboard this is. Maybe Gboard took over the app id of the previously foss android keyboard. PS: I recommend F-Droid Basic which supports silent background updates on any Android 1…

The app it wanted to install was its AOSP, it's likely that I was using another AOSP build at the time but I'm not sure. I've used either AOSP or gboard almost all of the time, so it's 99% likely to have been one of those two.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by codedokode »

OfSanguineFire wrote: post #32
BlueTemplar wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still based on Android though - so isn't it building on sand ? Isn't it better to focus our efforts on projects unrelated to Android, especially since some viable ones have appeared recently : Librem 5 and especially PinePhone.

Banks in many countries require an Android phone for online banking. Even if they offer an online-banking website that you can access with any browser, you may still need the Android app for 2FA. This is one of a number of reasons why the PinePhone or Librem is unfortunately not a daily driver. Also, things like paying for parking or interacting with public services are moving to Android apps in some places.

Do not use banking apps on a phone because it is not secure (there is no second factor). Use bank's website on a laptop instead.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by RetroTechie »

Kwpolska wrote: post #36
OfSanguineFire wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Banks in many countries require an Android phone for online banking. Even if they offer an online-banking website that you can access with any browser, you may still need the Android app for 2FA. This is one of a number of reasons why the PinePhone or Librem is unfortunately not a daily driver. Also, things like paying for parking or interacting with public services are moving to Android apps in some places.

Don't most banking apps reject non-GooglePlay/unofficial-image/rooted phones?

They might, but app for my bank works happily on LineageOS.

Same eg. with app for a local 2nd hand site, which on startup complains that it needs the Google services... and then runs without issue (only appears to use those Google services to pinpoint the phone's location).

Imho this is 1 more reason to put alternatives like LineageOS on a phone: the more users on those, the harder it is for app developers to drop that usergroup for... well, reasons.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by boomboomsubban »

gbil wrote: post #45

Is this proven? Some days ago I saw the reddit thread which is actually the first and only reply in the link and in that reddit thread there is no conclusion yet on who is actually affected why this conclusive title then?

The reddit thread makes it pretty clear that KDE Connect installed through third party sources are what's getting uninstalled.

Nobody with it installed from the play store mention it being removed, and though some users that got it from F-Droud mention it still being installed, there are several possible explanations for that. Like me, it wasn't removed on my phone but it turns out I disabled PlayProtect at some point.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by milosmns »

blameitonme wrote: post #4
neilv wrote: post #2

One way to be a little less constantly violated by your phone is to run GrapheneOS, instead of iOS or ordinary Android: https://grapheneos.org/

They only seem to support pixel, although pixels can be bought for cheap when compared to iphones, they're still expensive for countries which are still developing. For example Im using a device which is 1/4th the price of cheapest first hand pixel that I can get :(

Can you share some examples?

It's very interesting because 1/4 of Pixel 6a would be around 80 EUR... so I wonder about your environment and what workarounds you have for these problems.

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