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To Fight Big Tech, We Must Seize the Means of Computation

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Re: To Fight Big Tech, We Must Seize the Means of Computation

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HDCP.

Wow, so the decryption happens in the monitor? Can’t the capture card replicate that?

No, decryption keys are tightly held and inaccessible to general populations and small manufacturers and those used by illicit capture cards are regularly revoked iirc.

Re: To Fight Big Tech, We Must Seize the Means of Computation

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We have plenty of computation. A decent laptop today is a supercomputer. Terabytes of storage can be had for under $200. Locked hardware isn’t much of an issue either. Most of that either can be unlocked or there are equivalently powerful unlocked alternatives to be had. What people must seize is the network, and the network effect. Most of today’s tech empires are built on owning the hub around which everyone commun…

The sad part is that nobody really prevents us from seizing the network. It is intrinsically decentralized by design. It takes hard work to subvert this. Yet we don't do it. A sort of digital rigor mortis has descended upon the land. A comatose capitulation, complete lack of vital signs, let alone the lust for life that characterized the early period of the Web when everything seemed possible. The "network effect" is…

>The sad part is that nobody really prevents us from seizing the network. It is intrinsically decentralized by design. It takes hard work to subvert this.

The network is currently download only for most households. We need iCloud and YouTube and other companies hosting our content because of ipv4/CGNAT and lack of upload bandwidth.

Ideally, we would be able to host our own content on our own NAS at home and access it from anywhere, but the market or people who have an internet connection capable of that is not worth addressing.

Re: To Fight Big Tech, We Must Seize the Means of Computation

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I don’t really agree about the causes. The big problem is economic. It’s a business problem not a technology problem. The problem is that good software that ordinary people can easily use is extremely labor intensive to produce. Software is very expensive. This means you have to have an economic model and there has to be a toll booth somewhere or an indirect way of generating revenue like ads. Centralized services ma…

> nobody pays for anything? We pay for almost everything in tech. Part of the digital hallucination that oppresses us is to have this self-flagellating view. Nobody gets any free hardware of any kind. Nobody gets any free network infrastructure and bandwidth of any kind. Its all paid, by purchases, monthly subscriptions etc. With real, hard earned money by people from all walks of life and economic means. Not to ment…

People don’t pay for software unless they have to, which means they only pay for software that restricts their freedom… because that is the software you have to pay for. This is what I mean.

You can build high quality open freedom and privacy first software. Then you will probably go bankrupt. Lots of people will use it but nobody will pay for it.

Mastodon is used by millions. I’ve heard the devs make way below market rates and the foundation behind it is cash starved. That’s just one example.

Re: To Fight Big Tech, We Must Seize the Means of Computation

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We have plenty of computation. A decent laptop today is a supercomputer. Terabytes of storage can be had for under $200. Locked hardware isn’t much of an issue either. Most of that either can be unlocked or there are equivalently powerful unlocked alternatives to be had. What people must seize is the network, and the network effect. Most of today’s tech empires are built on owning the hub around which everyone commun…

The sad part is that nobody really prevents us from seizing the network. It is intrinsically decentralized by design. It takes hard work to subvert this. Yet we don't do it. A sort of digital rigor mortis has descended upon the land. A comatose capitulation, complete lack of vital signs, let alone the lust for life that characterized the early period of the Web when everything seemed possible. The "network effect" is…

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Re: To Fight Big Tech, We Must Seize the Means of Computation

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Realistically, no. You don't have access to the device that contains the decrypted content. Of course, you could try to open up or bypass the DRM module (e.g., via the GPU driver during hardware accelerated decoding), but that won't work with a TPM module and signed kernel space. If you look at the security technologies introduced into consumer decides over the last decades, it all serves the dual purpose of securing…

Couldn’t you just plug a capture card into the display out?

Every time you say 'just' an engineer who's already spent hours trying out your simple idea pulls out another clump of hair.

Re: To Fight Big Tech, We Must Seize the Means of Computation

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post #44

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> nobody pays for anything? We pay for almost everything in tech. Part of the digital hallucination that oppresses us is to have this self-flagellating view. Nobody gets any free hardware of any kind. Nobody gets any free network infrastructure and bandwidth of any kind. Its all paid, by purchases, monthly subscriptions etc. With real, hard earned money by people from all walks of life and economic means. Not to ment…

People don’t pay for software unless they have to, which means they only pay for software that restricts their freedom… because that is the software you have to pay for. This is what I mean. You can build high quality open freedom and privacy first software. Then you will probably go bankrupt. Lots of people will use it but nobody will pay for it. Mastodon is used by millions. I’ve heard the devs make way below marke…

> Mastodon is used by millions. I’ve heard the devs make way below market rates and the foundation behind it is cash starved. That’s just one example.

Yes, the funding situation around mastodon is very transparent and many other interesting projects in this space are total labor of love. I will forever admire those people whether they manage to make the world better or not.

Well, politicians could create a healthy market for software overnight by outlawing various targeted advertising practices. Once personal data gathering and use for advertising (and who knows what else - who ever reads and understands these manipulative "terms and conditions") is prohibited, any software supported by generic ad technology will be unsufferable.

Ten years ago you could excuse politicians, regulators and the lot that is supposed to work on our behalf as not being informed. Today there is no excuse.

Re: To Fight Big Tech, We Must Seize the Means of Computation

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I am always unconvinced by the argument that one can’t leave social media because their friends are on some site. No one I know does not check their SMS and email, and doesn’t pick up phone calls. I’ve not been on social media for about 5 years now, and I have not fallen out of touch with a single friend because of that. For other reasons like moving away physically or not gaming as much anymore, but not for this. Ev…

Not being contactable the same place all group stuff is organized or info distributed is either asking others to do work for you (to send you info everyone else got automatically) or means you’re opting to exclude yourself from those activities and discussions. Less relevant if your friend/family circle doesn’t organize group activities or chat as a group often, I guess.

I don't think it's less work with the new, Whatsapp-based way of organising group events. It seems to be more stressful and distracting to all involved. Your friends shoud appreciate the lack of an extra set of dings in a group chat, and gladly let you know about upcoming events where your presence is desired.

Re: To Fight Big Tech, We Must Seize the Means of Computation

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Wow, so the decryption happens in the monitor? Can’t the capture card replicate that?

No, decryption keys are tightly held and inaccessible to general populations and small manufacturers and those used by illicit capture cards are regularly revoked iirc.

In regards to that, i assume that manufacturers have to apply for a cert for their device and then embed that cert, correct? Then if the device is found to be stripping HDCP the consortium can revoke that cert, but how? Sure you can do it for PCs and consoles, but are blu-ray players connected to the internet and auto-updated nowadays? Otherwise it'd be pretty easy for Chinese manufactures out of reach of the DMCA to just release one every few years and have it work for all devices prior.
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